EVE General Discussion

I am almost new to Eve, having opened my first account 8 weeks ago. Having played daily during that time. I have come to recognize that I have little or no chance to actively play for at least 6 more months.

I need this time to gain skills to be able to survive in Eve. I originally thought that HighSec was the place for Newbies to grow up, but having been the subject of War Declarations for 4 of my first 8 weeks, I have learned - there is no such thing as high security space.

I am lucky, the corporation that declared war is all in one time zone, so if I am willing to get up at 4AM, I can get a couple of hours of mining or other activity in outside the station. Otherwise, I don't have the skills to survive even a run from station to station.

I have watched a dozen newbies in our alliance decide that Eve is no fun and they have left for other games.

Eve is a long established game environment with great graphics, a strong sense of community and wonderful underlying game system. I commend the developers for a great game.

Unfortunately, I probably will not hang around to play much longer - as a newbie, there is no place for me to really practice the game mechanics I need to be successful.

So I have to ask, does Eve want newbies?

Is there a place for them in this game?

If so, where is it?

I am not talking about alts and second accounts, but real new players who want to learn and grow.

I hope there is a positive answer to the question, because I want to play this game, not hide in a station.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96b7Jk5xCTQ&feature=fvst

This video pretty much sums up the majority view towards newbies. Ignore the jerks and elitist bastards.

If you want to pvp, just fit up a cheap frig and have at it, you don't need a **** ton of SP (despite what people tell you)

As a two month old newbie, I have no idea what you are talking about. I lived happily in highsec for a month, then moved to low sec. Was able to get a balance of wardecs/ mining time/ mission time/ etc... I may lose most fights I get in, but im getting better. Mostly because vets help me out. Just gotta know where you belong, the galaxy is too big to have to say newbies have no place, and are not wanted etc...

[quote=Yokai Mitsuhide]Plenty PLENTY of alliances/corps out there for new players where you can get directly involved in doing things with low SP.
You're underestimating how fun it is to get in a cheaply fit frigate and tackle people for the others in your group. And during these engagements you could be learning more about the game and how things work so non of this would be a waste of time.

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Thank you for the advice, everytime I leave the station I lose that cheap frigate.

Some of us want to do more than just PvP - if that is what I wanted to do, I would have joined one of the pure war games, I joined Eve because I thought it offered more options. I now have to wonder. I held my thoughts until I had some time in the game, but I have watched many people come, try it, be disappointed and leave, most after a couple of weeks of living with a war deck in High Sec.

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That is why the question is a serious one? Where does Eve intend for new players to land, learn and grow? Or is it purely a world of PvP from now on?

dun leave guy.
this game is fun.
Just get in with a group of people who don't suck and can defend themselves.

If you dont want to be involved in pvp actions, you should not be in EVE. Even the market is PvP. You are in competition with everyone else in this game at all times. Just because you are not PEW PEWing does not mean you are not PvPing.



That said,

OP, dont think you cant have fun out of the gate. You can mission run, mine, get into small fleet PvP tactics within a week or 2. 6 months? Sounds like either you haven't opened your mind to everything that is possible for a new player in the game, or some bitter vet is telling you a bunch of crap.

Unfortunately you had the bad luck to join a corp that was poorly led. Wardecs are not new - weak corps have been victimised by strong, bold corps since EVE began. Chalk it up to experience, join a better corp and this time, ask what their PvP plans are.

The maybe a PvP-centric game isn't the right choice for him. Since he's here and since he's asking what his place might be, the assumption that he might want to try out the whole rest of the game isn't a particularly bad one.

Put another way: yes, OP, EVE wants new players. Not all new players want EVE and the gameplay it offers, though. This is not a strange or bad thing — not everyone enjoys the same kinds of game and this one will be rather different from most other MMOs you'll find on the market.

You don't have to be successful to learn the game. You have to loose ships, many many ships, and die horribly and loose more cheap ships.

Because better skills won't change anything, except that you can fly more expensive ships and are even more afraid to loose them.

Better start now, play the game, don't sit around and mine. Get cheap ships, group up and die to the lazors of your enemy! It will never again be so cheap to die and to finally learn how to survive and how to win.



Yes
Yes
All around you. There is almost nothing you can't do as a new player.

When i came to eve i had the same questions as you, but i did not ask. So i waited and mined and run missions and hoped that one day i had the skills to fight against other players.. and when i finally got the skills i realized that i had no idea how the game really worked.. and i died, over and over again.. and the clones where already expensive as hell.

There is a price to SP! The more SP you have the more expensive your clone gets. You will never die for less ISK as you do now.

So what are you waiting for pilot? your merlin or rifter is waiting!

Eve is a PvP game, first and foremost(Even if CCP continuously caters to the whining carebears). Don't like it? Leave.