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Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
#1 - 2012-08-20 06:14:04 UTC
Now that the Amarr have had their little tastes of victory with different null sec alliances coming in to save them, and then failing after they cashout. Are the Amarr ready to accept a treaty with the Caldari to actually provide them pilots that will stick around after the big cashout? My guess is no since the Amarr still have those scabbed sores called wolfsbrigade flying for them. Honestly though, maybe it's time you guys admit you were wrong and apologize. CalMil has done it for years, you are still just getting a little taste of what it is really like. So go ahead. Ask/ scratch that/ beg us for help. We just might come down there and do it.

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Silence iKillYouu
Girls Lie But Zkill Doesn't
Pandemic Legion
#2 - 2012-08-20 06:16:28 UTC
we took kamela and wolfs left

EVE Mail me i dont check forums often.

Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
#3 - 2012-08-20 06:17:15 UTC
Silence iKillYouu wrote:
we took kamela and wolfs left

They didn't want that system anyways.

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Noa Fuyu
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-08-20 11:09:17 UTC
Who are you and why should the Amarr milita care?
Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
#5 - 2012-08-20 11:25:16 UTC
Noa Fuyu wrote:
Who are you and why should the Amarr milita care?


Because when the amarr run out of systems, their minmatar plexing alts will run out easy LP to farm

AMARR TRAITOR!

or some such :)
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#6 - 2012-08-20 11:59:55 UTC
Schalac wrote:
Now that the Amarr have had their little tastes of victory with different null sec alliances coming in to save them, and then failing after they cashout. Are the Amarr ready to accept a treaty with the Caldari to actually provide them pilots that will stick around after the big cashout? My guess is no since the Amarr still have those scabbed sores called wolfsbrigade flying for them. Honestly though, maybe it's time you guys admit you were wrong and apologize. CalMil has done it for years, you are still just getting a little taste of what it is really like. So go ahead. Ask/ scratch that/ beg us for help. We just might come down there and do it.


Stealthy begging post detected.

'Please, since you dont have any space left come help us with the army of plexing alts that is about to descend upon our space' ~ paraphrased.
Peteris G
Ophidia in herba
#7 - 2012-08-20 12:10:51 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:


Stealthy begging post detected.

'Please, since you dont have any space left come help us with the army of plexing alts that is about to descend upon our space' ~ paraphrased.


Since there is only about 7 Your systems not vulnerable You should know better plexing powa of caldari. Blink Try to make guess where they might move...
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#8 - 2012-08-20 13:27:29 UTC
Peteris G wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:


Stealthy begging post detected.

'Please, since you dont have any space left come help us with the army of plexing alts that is about to descend upon our space' ~ paraphrased.


Since there is only about 7 Your systems not vulnerable You should know better plexing powa of caldari. Blink Try to make guess where they might move...


No one has ever said that caldari couldnt PvE :)

It seems clear that from the numbers, with all plexers in their home turf atm that caldari have the advantage even over minmatar in that respect (regardless of what Drama Ragearion might claim).

What i do doubt is caldaris ability to bash bunkers fast enough to reach tier 5. I might be wrong, but ninjaing a couple in the jpn tz with a few dreads each night isnt going to get you enough systems before the matar swarm arrives and re-vulns your recently bashed systems.
Peteris G
Ophidia in herba
#9 - 2012-08-20 13:54:58 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
[ I might be wrong, but ninjaing a couple in the jpn tz with a few dreads each night isnt going to get you enough systems before the matar swarm arrives and re-vulns your recently bashed systems.


That possible but if that will happen that means that for us glorious caldari plexes there will be less systems to farm... and as I said You might try to guess where is another big nice farming field. So to be brief - if minies will be messing here they might suddenly find problems in their own home Blink
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#10 - 2012-08-20 14:18:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Peteris G wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
[ I might be wrong, but ninjaing a couple in the jpn tz with a few dreads each night isnt going to get you enough systems before the matar swarm arrives and re-vulns your recently bashed systems.


That possible but if that will happen that means that for us glorious caldari plexes there will be less systems to farm... and as I said You might try to guess where is another big nice farming field. So to be brief - if minies will be messing here they might suddenly find problems in their own home Blink


I think you misunderstand the dynamic of all this. If caldari cannot attain tier 5 while the minmatar can, the farmers will be investing less time on their caldari farming alts and log back in their matar ones. The farming is only at its current level because all the people farming look at the numbers and see caldari on the brink of tier 5. But the numbers dont tell the whole story.

Not saying im correct on this as no outcome is written in stone.

Also, three days after you make a minmatar system vuln, that system will be back in minmatar hands. You are used to plexing against people that really cant be bothered with that much PvE, while the matar can taste that tier 5 isk and cant get enough.
Peteris G
Ophidia in herba
#11 - 2012-08-20 14:49:43 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:


I think you misunderstand the dynamic of all this. If caldari cannot attain tier 5 while the minmatar can, the farmers will be investing less time on their caldari farming alts and log back in their matar ones. The farming is only at its current level because all the people farming look at the numbers and see caldari on the brink of tier 5. But the numbers dont tell the whole story.


As I understand You are assuming that every farmer has alts in both militias? I find that unlikely. Some might but I guess that would be minority.

Crosi Wesdo wrote:


Also, three days after you make a minmatar system vuln, that system will be back in minmatar hands. You are used to plexing against people that really cant be bothered with that much PvE, while the matar can taste that tier 5 isk and cant get enough.


And You put together offensive plexing and defensive plexing. those are different PVE. One gives rewards, but other dont Blink
Vordak Kallager
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#12 - 2012-08-20 14:52:02 UTC
Please. Dear God. No. Not the Caldari. Anything but that. Really. Please.

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.

Peteris G
Ophidia in herba
#13 - 2012-08-20 15:07:25 UTC
Vordak Kallager wrote:
Please. Dear God. No. Not the Caldari. Anything but that. Really. Please.


Go away troll :) We have serious discussion here P
Vordak Kallager
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#14 - 2012-08-20 15:10:41 UTC
Peteris G wrote:
Vordak Kallager wrote:
Please. Dear God. No. Not the Caldari. Anything but that. Really. Please.


Go away troll :) We have serious discussion here P


Really? This is just some really poor Squid chest-beating. Bear

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.

Peteris G
Ophidia in herba
#15 - 2012-08-20 15:18:49 UTC
Vordak Kallager wrote:


Really? This is just some really poor Squid chest-beating. Bear


Actually this is very scientific analysis, problem is that You are just uneducated slave - so unable to understand that P But I forgive You Smile
Capitol One
Blue Canary
Watch This
#16 - 2012-08-20 15:26:07 UTC
Shalac wrote:
CalMil has done it for years, you are still just getting a little taste of what it is really like.


Just what exactly has Calmil "done for years"?

Think carefully before replying, 'cause you might just end up looking rather embarrassing :)
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#17 - 2012-08-20 15:34:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Peteris G wrote:

And You put together offensive plexing and defensive plexing. those are different PVE. One gives rewards, but other dont Blink


You obviously have no clue what the matar have just invested in defending their space from nulli and why nulli gave up on tier 5 prematurely after realising it was going to become more of a grind than they ever imagined. Matar will return any system you make vulnerable back to stable and in matar hands within 3/4 days of becoming vulnerable.

Without a single defensive plex.

As for farming alts, i dont think you can appreciate why they exist. You, are a farmer, and do so with your main account with no desire other than to accumulate wealth. People who create alts to farm for isk do so to support their mains and if they created one 300k sp toon to farm one front, its very likely they will have no hesitation to create another 300k sp toon to farm another.

You are living in a cute little box and seem to have little understanding of whats happening in the greater fw.
Peteris G
Ophidia in herba
#18 - 2012-08-20 15:45:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Peteris G
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Peteris G wrote:

And You put together offensive plexing and defensive plexing. those are different PVE. One gives rewards, but other dont Blink


You obviously have no clue what the matar have just invested in defending their space from nulli and why nulli gave up on tier 5 prematurely after realising it was going to become more of a grind than they ever imagined. Matar will return any system you make vulnerable back to stable and in matar hands within 3/4 days of becoming vulnerable.

Without a single defensive plex.

As for farming alts, i dont think you can appreciate why they exist. You, are a farmer, and do so with your main account with no desire other than to accumulate wealth. People who create alts to farm for isk do so to support their mains and if they created one 300k sp toon to farm one front, its very likely they will have no hesitation to create another 300k sp toon to farm another.

You are living in a cute little box and seem to have little understanding of whats happening in the greater fw.


Errmmm.... if You would bother to read You would know that leaving of nulli has nothing to do with minnies defense.
As for my account - who said that this is my main and only account?
About box - yes and I have more than one and yes they are cute :) I am not some poor frogling P
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#19 - 2012-08-20 16:07:58 UTC
Peteris G wrote:


Errmmm.... if You would bother to read You would know that leaving of nulli has nothing to do with minnies defense.
As for my account - who said that this is my main and only account?
About box - yes and I have more than one and yes they are cute :) I am not some poor frogling P



Yes, nulli left because they didnt want tier 5 anyway. I know they had another dullsec deployment but their stated goal was to crush the minmatar sov and take tier 5 in a week. Something they couldnt do in 3 weeks. And as minmatar meta games were warming up the likelihood of it ever happening was slipping away.

Basically, without spelling anything out. Caldari plexing in minmatar space, while obviously tiresome, is something that they have already made a counter for that involves no defensive plexing. So Threats against their space if they come and endanger yours are weak to say the least.
Peteris G
Ophidia in herba
#20 - 2012-08-20 16:14:17 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:


Basically, without spelling anything out. Caldari plexing in minmatar space, while obviously tiresome, is something that they have already made a counter for that involves no defensive plexing.


So if there is that counter why You (I mean Gals) are not using it? Didn't want those systems anyway? Blink
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