Warfare & Tactics

If your still in FW for pvp it's admarible....but you're doing it wrong. Start farming.

FW used to be pvp, then it took an Inferno to the knee.

as I've said before, if any of the minmatar want to grow balls and swap to Amarr it's just a few clicks away...

...that requires big great balls though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRV3xA9Zcds

amarr FW has always been dead.

From my limited exposure (mostly with alts in various militias), it seems most of the "good fights" are just blobs of various sizes. Small gangs try and get the lone plexer or mission runner in his pve fit. Larger gangs try and bait small gangs. Even in 1v1, if you're in a t1 frig, the only people that come at you are in faction frigs or larger ships. It's human nature to want to win, even in the serious business of internet spaceships, and few will actually fight a battle they don't expect to win.

LOL, sad pilot from sad corp losing his gusto. Just go to the Gal side already.

I doubt, Gallente has so much alts on caldari side controlling systems flips that they can always manage to take tier 4.

You mean, Minmatar farming alts in Caldari space.

Also I wanted to add:

Farmarr's ITT crying about all the Minmatar farmers when 80% of the Minmatar farmers are Farmarr alts.

I think some of the old school Amarr became a bit obsessed with moaning to be quite honest. To many of its groups became very restricted in their tactics and gameplay outlook and simply failed to adapt to the demands of the warzone. Sure everyone can complain and grumble about gunless-farming-alts or whatnot but they don't really matter. Plexing was always a pretty cynical game since the earliest days in FW and many of the people now bemoaning the passing of a golden age made their reputation flying kiting interceptors that risk nothing in plex fights - kill anybody slower/shorter ranged and run away from anything resembling a "fair fight" anyway.

Hint - to Navy Slicer there's no difference between a rifter with guns and a rifter without guns - if it gets into optimal kiting orbit it'll kill the target either way. Frigate warfare is immensely cynical in my experience (and always has been.)

The cause of the Amarrian collapse was a morale collapse brought on by a sense of entitlement (FW sandbox) and too many outfits with too many egos saying that pvp was their only reason and cause for existence and the rest of FW mechanics could go hang.

The real triumph of the Minmatar Militia is not hordes of F(arm)arrian plexing alts or locust like numbers.

Its something really simple.

Friendly inclusive fleets. Very few nonsense arguments and a good general mood/attitude on comms.

Minmatar fleets become a genuinely good and enjoyable way to play the game.

I logged in yesterday for the first time in a month really (long summer hols, olympics blah blah blah). My corp/alliance channel dead as a doornail to find myself sitting in a Fleet Stabber in Huola. So I undock, logged onto minmatar coms. 2 mins later some guy sends me a fleet invite and I'm in an enthusiastic rag-bag Matari fleet setting out to plex Kamela and finally take the system back from the Amarrians.

People are decent human beings - they laugh, they joke, they chat about eve, and they take risks and treat combat like they game it is. The FC defines his fleet purpose as dominating the plexing in Kamela - that means we keep changing ships in Kourm every 15-20 mins but thats cool - its variety too - we all get to fly around in different ship classes and don't get bored doing the same thing. The meta-goal is good too - we can see the contest level going up and the Amarrians will need to do something about it if they want to keep docking rights in their capital system.

Honestly it felt like I'd never gone away. Minmatar militia felt like home.

Backwards and forwards in the warzone old school Amarrians are running for the hills. Bitter vet Amarrians quitting the militia are complaining in local about how CCP broke their game (while running irrelevant station camps or smart-bombing battleships - or flitting around in cloaky t3s for gang links for non-existent fleets).

"Plexes are broken."
"Farming is broken."
"Eve is broken."
"LP is broken."
"Nulli killed us!"
"Fweddit killed us!"
"Wolf Brigade killed us!"

(it seems pretty much everything killed the old school amarrians except minmatar ships.)

The some humorous discussions in the basic Minmatar Militia chat with some dodgy looking alts saying we should leave some Amarrian systems perma vulnerable so they could farm plexes there and being told to get on their bikes and learn to fly stealth bombers in missions like proper freedom fighters!

All seemed very familiar.

Then into this came the new contenders.

Agony Empire with no smack, no complaining, no bitter whinging - just decently fit ships (no more Fweddit t1 dessies for these guys) and a game attempt to slow the Kamela capture followed by the deployment of a fleet concept they've already offered to the eve community as a public discussion involving oneiros and deimos based fast armour hac variants.

Good fun for all involved I think. My Fleet Stabber survived the fight and it was good to see Agony Empire working up close and I'm sure they'll become an excellent part of the warzone in the weeks and months to come.

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Sometimes I think veterans can be their own worst enemies really. I've read variously that the veteran amarrian corps didn't like plex warfare, don't like the consequences in FW 2.0, prefer station games, titan drops, whatever. But I think the truth of it is they were probably just bored with the atmosphere in the Amarr Militia. There is just so much negativity and whining that you can hear day in day out before you want to play something else (play somewhere else) and the people spending their time venting and gnashing their teeth day after day should probably shoulder their own share of the responsibility for what has become of Amarrian Faction Warfare.

For my part, I say a big thanks to the pilots in the Minmatar Militia who make it a joy to randomly login and join up and spend a day fighting in a wide variety of fleet concepts and deployments against the evil slavers.

The secret win-sauce of the Minmatar Militia is we're nice people to play the game with.