Ships & Modules

CNR

Rigs: Large warhead rigor I x3

Top: 7x Cruise missile launcher II (empty slot, recommend one? dont need a tractor beam, only going in to clear it out then in with a noctis)

mid: 100 MN MWD, Large shield booster II (this is where i need advice, i dont have enough CPU to have a XL SB, what skill is it i need to train?) adaptive invulnerability field II, shield boost amplifier I (working on II) and 2 specific deflection / dissipation field.

bot: co proccessor II and 4 Ballistic control system II


Also, with this fit, do you think I'm ready for L4 missions

DPS 629.6 with missiles alone, i dont have tech II drones. overall tank its almost 40k (13.5k shield, 12,452 armour, 12.451 structure)
thanks for any advice

I don't see a cap mod. With a shield booster and an MWD, that cap is going to go down fast.

afterburner. Really, the Afterburner is a convenience than a necessity. only a few missions would require a AB like 'Recon' or long warpgate (over 30km's) distances.

Don't need mwd. MWD also gimps your cap.

The reason you don't have cpu for the mid slots is because you have 4 bcu in low. Drop 4th bcu.

Try NOS for the 8th high slot.

You realise that your bling faction fetish fit does less dps than an actual good fit which doesn't need all that nonsense, right?

Bit of a pet peeve I must admit but I really don't understand why people put on bling stuff you don't need, and generally those fit perform badly as well. Good example is that clown who lost a 3 billion fit Fleet typhoon with zero dps, obviously an idiot, obviously clueless on the game. Not saying all bling fits are clueless pilots but more often than not they are.

The main issue is not using rigor rigs, those really help increasing your applied dps against non-BS targets so using them speeds up your missioning meaning more income and less boredom. the downside is that you can't get a perma tank anymore but you can solve that in two ways. Either just accept that you have limited tank life (which is almost never a problem) or switch to a cap boosted fit. If you use a cap booster you only waste one slot on cap, not 3 rigs and 2 low slots, result is that you can focus your dps&tank a whole lot better that way and because you kill faster you also need less tank to begin with.

Have a look here, would you want a tad more tank you could drop the AB in favour of more resists but it really isn't needed and speed can always be useful, either to get to a gate or to pick up a mission item.

[Raven Navy Issue, PVE - LVL 4 Guristas]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Signal Amplifier II

100MN Afterburner II
Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Caldari Navy Kinetic Deflection Field
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Cruise Missile
Small Tractor Beam I

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I


Hobgoblin II x5
Garde II x3

a) after having done the math using actual realistic scenarios, there's zero reason to use 2 rigors +1 flare over 3 rigors, and would you start to use T2 ammo then that would favour rigors. So no.
b) which has nothing to do with the fit as such, a non-issue
c) not needed, with 3 rigors you get to cruiser-like explosion radius (also, painters are a pain to use and only having 1 causes cycle issues)
d) dumb faction fetish bling bullshit, it's not needed and makes you into a gank target.
e) sure, give a fit without a cap booster that allows for rigor rigs and 4 BCS
f) not needed, there's enough tank already and increased speed can, in some missions, give faster completion times.


In short, you wrote a lot of nonsense.

In fact there is. More math than likely wanted here:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=145812&find=unread

Is there any reason nobody is looking at a dual-ASB setup? They work marvelously, in my experience.

[Raven Navy Issue, Mission]

Co-Processor II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

100MN Afterburner II
Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 150
Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 150
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Shield Boost Amplifier II

Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Auto Targeting System II

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I


Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5

You're joking, right?

We're seeing plenty of cap boosted setups. A shield boost amplifier uses that capacitor about 3 times more efficiently than a typical cap/shield booster combination. If a ship can run missions with a capacitor injector, it can run them with an ancillary shield booster.

Just to humor you, let's look at the cost you're complaining about. The median selling price is approximately 8000 isk/unit (I use 400 charges). I use approximately 5-10 per mission. Each mission pays out somewhere between 10 and 20 million isk, not including salvage and LP.

I'm spending about 50,000 isk to earn ~15 million isk. That means that for every three hundred missions I complete, I'll have to do one more. I usually spend forty times that paying for T2 missiles, and consider it well worth the expense.

Capacitor charge cost is most definitely not a legitimate reason to avoid the ancillary shield booster.