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Its finally happend: ccp killed amarr/minm fw fun
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Dan Carter Murray
#221 - 2012-08-21 08:29:31 UTC
Markius TheShed wrote:
Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:


Yes we use boosters in the major systems.. as do minmatar so go **** yourselves.
Yes we have POS's in major warfare systems in FW because we can't dock.
Yes we pick our fights carefull because we know who's going to blob and dieing means wasting time traveling halfway across a warzone just to reship.
Yes we kite 90% of the time because we fight in systems where we are 4 or 5 of system full of 30 minmatar. Brawling means Dead and i am gutted because i love brawling :(

We do our fair share of gay ****... like smart bombing pods or sniping at stations but we don't kid ourselves. It's not legit space honourable PVP and we know that. It IS funny though if your bored (although I've only done suicide ganking as my funny PVP thing of choice).



And all that makes me avoid 1v1 fights with your Corp, I can only think of one good fight I've had with TMFED and that was our SFI duel in Siseide.

And all those tactics encourage or require a blob to count it or we just avoid your corp in a 1v1 situation, No one can guarantee perfect fights everytime you just have to adapt to the situation and your enemies.



I need tactical advice pl0x.

Enemy has 25 sfi and 5 blackbird.

My fleet has 3 people.

They are attacking.

What's our strat?

Now cut the crap and swap sides

http://mfi.re/?j7ldoco 50GB free space @ MediaFire.com
Bengal Bob
Slymsloot Enterprises
#222 - 2012-08-21 09:02:05 UTC
Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:
On a side note, whoever said TMFED don't undock and if we do we stay pos'd go **** yourselves.

I do :P

I don't have time in EVE to **** about for 10-25minutes orbiting buttons, or **** talking while docked (although sometimes while working at home I use EVE as a chat client).

When playing EVE I head off and find stuff to shoot. If i stick round kam/kourm etc 1 of two things happens. i get blobbed or I attack people that don't know who we are/have the balls to fight us and **** them in the ass.

Yes we use boosters in the major systems.. as do minmatar so go **** yourselves.
Yes we have POS's in major warfare systems in FW because we can't dock.
Yes we pick our fights carefull because we know who's going to blob and dieing means wasting time traveling halfway across a warzone just to reship.
Yes we kite 90% of the time because we fight in systems where we are 4 or 5 of system full of 30 minmatar. Brawling means Dead and i am gutted because i love brawling :(

We do our fair share of gay ****... like smart bombing pods or sniping at stations but we don't kid ourselves. It's not legit space honourable PVP and we know that. It IS funny though if your bored (although I've only done suicide ganking as my funny PVP thing of choice).

TMFED are the best pvpers I have flown with, I've learnt more about small gang ops in TMFED from RTS, maz3r and the rest of the crew than I ever did anywhere else.
There are also few corps that love amarr AND all of Faction warfare.

So STFU :P

we are terrible though btw...........



See what happens when you leave station. I blob you.

http://rust-in-pieces.org/kills/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13542

Only joking, nice to see TMFED off station and not fitted as a sniper.
Markius TheShed
T.R.I.A.D
Ushra'Khan
#223 - 2012-08-21 09:09:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Markius TheShed
Dan Carter Murray wrote:


I need tactical advice pl0x.

Enemy has 25 sfi and 5 blackbird.

My fleet has 3 people.

They are attacking.

What's our strat?

Now cut the crap and swap sides



My advice would be DON'T take the fight.

which is the tactic I used against Tmfed when in Auga on my own in a nano SFI, They have 3 boosters online, RTS is in a snaked faction fit cynabal with a Taranis corpy at my plex gate.

Why would i join a side who can't see such a simple situation

**Murientor Tribe** a capsuleer organization composed of radical Minmatar. Since YC107
Dan Carter Murray
#224 - 2012-08-21 09:15:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Dan Carter Murray
Fantastic answer.

Now since you minnies use that 24/7 i guess its best never engage.

I C WUT U DID THER.

So swap sides ASAP so you can never take a fight.

http://mfi.re/?j7ldoco 50GB free space @ MediaFire.com
Christine Peeveepeeski
Low Sec Concepts
#225 - 2012-08-21 09:20:56 UTC
Markius TheShed wrote:
Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:


Yes we use boosters in the major systems.. as do minmatar so go **** yourselves.
Yes we have POS's in major warfare systems in FW because we can't dock.
Yes we pick our fights carefull because we know who's going to blob and dieing means wasting time traveling halfway across a warzone just to reship.
Yes we kite 90% of the time because we fight in systems where we are 4 or 5 of system full of 30 minmatar. Brawling means Dead and i am gutted because i love brawling :(

We do our fair share of gay ****... like smart bombing pods or sniping at stations but we don't kid ourselves. It's not legit space honourable PVP and we know that. It IS funny though if your bored (although I've only done suicide ganking as my funny PVP thing of choice).



And all that makes me avoid 1v1 fights with your Corp, I can only think of one good fight I've had with TMFED and that was our SFI duel in Siseide.

And all those tactics encourage or require a blob to count it or we just avoid your corp in a 1v1 situation, No one can guarantee perfect fights everytime you just have to adapt to the situation and your enemies.



I'm raging at the guys moaning at why we use those tactics Marcus, not the solo guys out there. I enjoyed our fights, and a few others we've had and if we ever meet outside of the main battlefront systems you'll find I'm not boosted 15 times over.

Unfortunately I only really meet you in Auga these days and that's like moving to eszur and asking Minnys not to shoot us as we sit on the gates.

@ Dan carter murray, cheers.
Christine Peeveepeeski
Low Sec Concepts
#226 - 2012-08-21 09:23:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Christine Peeveepeeski
Bengal Bob wrote:
Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:
On a side note, whoever said TMFED don't undock and if we do we stay pos'd go **** yourselves.

I do :P

I don't have time in EVE to **** about for 10-25minutes orbiting buttons, or **** talking while docked (although sometimes while working at home I use EVE as a chat client).

When playing EVE I head off and find stuff to shoot. If i stick round kam/kourm etc 1 of two things happens. i get blobbed or I attack people that don't know who we are/have the balls to fight us and **** them in the ass.

Yes we use boosters in the major systems.. as do minmatar so go **** yourselves.
Yes we have POS's in major warfare systems in FW because we can't dock.
Yes we pick our fights carefull because we know who's going to blob and dieing means wasting time traveling halfway across a warzone just to reship.
Yes we kite 90% of the time because we fight in systems where we are 4 or 5 of system full of 30 minmatar. Brawling means Dead and i am gutted because i love brawling :(

We do our fair share of gay ****... like smart bombing pods or sniping at stations but we don't kid ourselves. It's not legit space honourable PVP and we know that. It IS funny though if your bored (although I've only done suicide ganking as my funny PVP thing of choice).

TMFED are the best pvpers I have flown with, I've learnt more about small gang ops in TMFED from RTS, maz3r and the rest of the crew than I ever did anywhere else.
There are also few corps that love amarr AND all of Faction warfare.

So STFU :P

we are terrible though btw...........



See what happens when you leave station. I blob you.

http://rust-in-pieces.org/kills/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13542

Only joking, nice to see TMFED off station and not fitted as a sniper.



That was actually good fun. We both played the odds, i lost this time... my LG Jackals just didn't hold out against the initial OH jam cycle. Still.. they've helped many many times over win me fights solo so no grumbles heh.

Also, seriously, most of us in TMFED are not what you think. It's just either propoganda OR you see what you want to see. We fights constantly outnumbered in some of the hottest systems in the front. Tell me you would not fight like we do in those situations. when we leave those systems it all changes. I even get to take brawlers out for a spin :D
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#227 - 2012-08-21 09:36:12 UTC
Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:
On a side note, whoever said TMFED don't undock and if we do we stay pos'd go **** yourselves.

I do :P

I don't have time in EVE to **** about for 10-25minutes orbiting buttons, or **** talking while docked (although sometimes while working at home I use EVE as a chat client).

When playing EVE I head off and find stuff to shoot. If i stick round kam/kourm etc 1 of two things happens. i get blobbed or I attack people that don't know who we are/have the balls to fight us and **** them in the ass.

Yes we use boosters in the major systems.. as do minmatar so go **** yourselves.
Yes we have POS's in major warfare systems in FW because we can't dock.
Yes we pick our fights carefull because we know who's going to blob and dieing means wasting time traveling halfway across a warzone just to reship.
Yes we kite 90% of the time because we fight in systems where we are 4 or 5 of system full of 30 minmatar. Brawling means Dead and i am gutted because i love brawling :(

We do our fair share of gay ****... like smart bombing pods or sniping at stations but we don't kid ourselves. It's not legit space honourable PVP and we know that. It IS funny though if your bored (although I've only done suicide ganking as my funny PVP thing of choice).

TMFED are the best pvpers I have flown with, I've learnt more about small gang ops in TMFED from RTS, maz3r and the rest of the crew than I ever did anywhere else.
There are also few corps that love amarr AND all of Faction warfare.

So STFU :P

we are terrible though btw...........

p.s.
Gump has a specific comb for his beard



Sad to hear that you waste your time and resources for irrelevant thingies.
Christine Peeveepeeski
Low Sec Concepts
#228 - 2012-08-21 09:41:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Christine Peeveepeeski
Bad Messenger wrote:
Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:
On a side note, whoever said TMFED don't undock and if we do we stay pos'd go **** yourselves.

I do :P

I don't have time in EVE to **** about for 10-25minutes orbiting buttons, or **** talking while docked (although sometimes while working at home I use EVE as a chat client).

When playing EVE I head off and find stuff to shoot. If i stick round kam/kourm etc 1 of two things happens. i get blobbed or I attack people that don't know who we are/have the balls to fight us and **** them in the ass.

Yes we use boosters in the major systems.. as do minmatar so go **** yourselves.
Yes we have POS's in major warfare systems in FW because we can't dock.
Yes we pick our fights carefull because we know who's going to blob and dieing means wasting time traveling halfway across a warzone just to reship.
Yes we kite 90% of the time because we fight in systems where we are 4 or 5 of system full of 30 minmatar. Brawling means Dead and i am gutted because i love brawling :(

We do our fair share of gay ****... like smart bombing pods or sniping at stations but we don't kid ourselves. It's not legit space honourable PVP and we know that. It IS funny though if your bored (although I've only done suicide ganking as my funny PVP thing of choice).

TMFED are the best pvpers I have flown with, I've learnt more about small gang ops in TMFED from RTS, maz3r and the rest of the crew than I ever did anywhere else.
There are also few corps that love amarr AND all of Faction warfare.

So STFU :P

we are terrible though btw...........

p.s.
Gump has a specific comb for his beard



Sad to hear that you waste your time and resources for irrelevant thingies.


Going to elaborate or was that just a post to accenuate your name?

Edit* actually I just did something there I'd rather not do so don't answer, it's fine. I'm being drawn into forum posting because I'm unhappy at all the shitposting and really, no matter how much I can answer all the dumb assery all i actually end up becoming is a shitposter like everyone else.

Carry on :P
Markius TheShed
T.R.I.A.D
Ushra'Khan
#229 - 2012-08-21 10:23:44 UTC
Dan Carter Murray wrote:
Fantastic answer.

Now since you minnies use that 24/7 i guess its best never engage.

I C WUT U DID THER.

So swap sides ASAP so you can never take a fight.


Yeah your right I'll convince my corp who have been fighting for the Minmatar for 7 years to switch because you can't adapt to your enemy and that's the only solution to ALL the Amarrs problems RollRoll

I don't like fighting TMFED so I pick my fights with them, why can't you do the same?

**Murientor Tribe** a capsuleer organization composed of radical Minmatar. Since YC107
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#230 - 2012-08-21 10:44:37 UTC
Hey if you cant have a reasonable 12 page rant about the state of FW, why not attack each other personally and slag off each others corps and stuff.

Thanks for raising the bar Dan.

Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.
Ezra Tair
Doomheim
#231 - 2012-08-21 13:41:19 UTC
Dan Carter Murray wrote:
Markius TheShed wrote:
Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:


Yes we use boosters in the major systems.. as do minmatar so go **** yourselves.
Yes we have POS's in major warfare systems in FW because we can't dock.
Yes we pick our fights carefull because we know who's going to blob and dieing means wasting time traveling halfway across a warzone just to reship.
Yes we kite 90% of the time because we fight in systems where we are 4 or 5 of system full of 30 minmatar. Brawling means Dead and i am gutted because i love brawling :(

We do our fair share of gay ****... like smart bombing pods or sniping at stations but we don't kid ourselves. It's not legit space honourable PVP and we know that. It IS funny though if your bored (although I've only done suicide ganking as my funny PVP thing of choice).



And all that makes me avoid 1v1 fights with your Corp, I can only think of one good fight I've had with TMFED and that was our SFI duel in Siseide.

And all those tactics encourage or require a blob to count it or we just avoid your corp in a 1v1 situation, No one can guarantee perfect fights everytime you just have to adapt to the situation and your enemies.



I need tactical advice pl0x.

Enemy has 25 sfi and 5 blackbird.

My fleet has 3 people.

They are attacking.

What's our strat?

Now cut the crap and swap sides



Honestly? Stop chasing your allies out of militia. Thats a good strat. From what I've heard (sorry I don't partake in the spy meta-game), their are or have ben so many abrasive elements in the Amarr militia, that being more inclusive than exclusive would be an excellent strat.

Also, I dunno if you know this, but most line time Minmatar militia members are < -8 to Amarr Empire. Your request is not reasonable.
Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
#232 - 2012-08-21 14:09:00 UTC
Ezra Tair wrote:
Dan Carter Murray wrote:
Markius TheShed wrote:
Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:


Yes we use boosters in the major systems.. as do minmatar so go **** yourselves.
Yes we have POS's in major warfare systems in FW because we can't dock.
Yes we pick our fights carefull because we know who's going to blob and dieing means wasting time traveling halfway across a warzone just to reship.
Yes we kite 90% of the time because we fight in systems where we are 4 or 5 of system full of 30 minmatar. Brawling means Dead and i am gutted because i love brawling :(

We do our fair share of gay ****... like smart bombing pods or sniping at stations but we don't kid ourselves. It's not legit space honourable PVP and we know that. It IS funny though if your bored (although I've only done suicide ganking as my funny PVP thing of choice).



And all that makes me avoid 1v1 fights with your Corp, I can only think of one good fight I've had with TMFED and that was our SFI duel in Siseide.

And all those tactics encourage or require a blob to count it or we just avoid your corp in a 1v1 situation, No one can guarantee perfect fights everytime you just have to adapt to the situation and your enemies.



I need tactical advice pl0x.

Enemy has 25 sfi and 5 blackbird.

My fleet has 3 people.

They are attacking.

What's our strat?

Now cut the crap and swap sides



Honestly? Stop chasing your allies out of militia. Thats a good strat. From what I've heard (sorry I don't partake in the spy meta-game), their are or have ben so many abrasive elements in the Amarr militia, that being more inclusive than exclusive would be an excellent strat.

Also, I dunno if you know this, but most line time Minmatar militia members are < -8 to Amarr Empire. Your request is not reasonable.


Confirm this.

I've seen so many popcorn moments between amarr corps. I guess their propensity to backstab each other and ragequit is a significant part of why we outnumber them so often. Only broken by massive nullsec alliances who drop in from time to time before failing hugely.
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#233 - 2012-08-21 14:41:39 UTC
Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:
Bad Messenger wrote:
Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:
On a side note, whoever said TMFED don't undock and if we do we stay pos'd go **** yourselves.

I do :P

I don't have time in EVE to **** about for 10-25minutes orbiting buttons, or **** talking while docked (although sometimes while working at home I use EVE as a chat client).

When playing EVE I head off and find stuff to shoot. If i stick round kam/kourm etc 1 of two things happens. i get blobbed or I attack people that don't know who we are/have the balls to fight us and **** them in the ass.

Yes we use boosters in the major systems.. as do minmatar so go **** yourselves.
Yes we have POS's in major warfare systems in FW because we can't dock.
Yes we pick our fights carefull because we know who's going to blob and dieing means wasting time traveling halfway across a warzone just to reship.
Yes we kite 90% of the time because we fight in systems where we are 4 or 5 of system full of 30 minmatar. Brawling means Dead and i am gutted because i love brawling :(

We do our fair share of gay ****... like smart bombing pods or sniping at stations but we don't kid ourselves. It's not legit space honourable PVP and we know that. It IS funny though if your bored (although I've only done suicide ganking as my funny PVP thing of choice).

TMFED are the best pvpers I have flown with, I've learnt more about small gang ops in TMFED from RTS, maz3r and the rest of the crew than I ever did anywhere else.
There are also few corps that love amarr AND all of Faction warfare.

So STFU :P

we are terrible though btw...........

p.s.
Gump has a specific comb for his beard



Sad to hear that you waste your time and resources for irrelevant thingies.


Going to elaborate or was that just a post to accenuate your name?

Edit* actually I just did something there I'd rather not do so don't answer, it's fine. I'm being drawn into forum posting because I'm unhappy at all the shitposting and really, no matter how much I can answer all the dumb assery all i actually end up becoming is a shitposter like everyone else.

Carry on :P


I do not really know what you are trying to achieve. Are you trying to play FW or just get some PVP?
If you try to play FW sov warfare you are doing wrong. Also it seems that you do not get PVP either.

So can you even tell what you are trying to do?
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#234 - 2012-08-21 15:11:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Cearain
Bad Messenger wrote:
Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:
Bad Messenger wrote:
Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:
On a side note, whoever said TMFED don't undock and if we do we stay pos'd go **** yourselves.

I do :P

I don't have time in EVE to **** about for 10-25minutes orbiting buttons, or **** talking while docked (although sometimes while working at home I use EVE as a chat client).

When playing EVE I head off and find stuff to shoot. If i stick round kam/kourm etc 1 of two things happens. i get blobbed or I attack people that don't know who we are/have the balls to fight us and **** them in the ass.

Yes we use boosters in the major systems.. as do minmatar so go **** yourselves.
Yes we have POS's in major warfare systems in FW because we can't dock.
Yes we pick our fights carefull because we know who's going to blob and dieing means wasting time traveling halfway across a warzone just to reship.
Yes we kite 90% of the time because we fight in systems where we are 4 or 5 of system full of 30 minmatar. Brawling means Dead and i am gutted because i love brawling :(

We do our fair share of gay ****... like smart bombing pods or sniping at stations but we don't kid ourselves. It's not legit space honourable PVP and we know that. It IS funny though if your bored (although I've only done suicide ganking as my funny PVP thing of choice).

TMFED are the best pvpers I have flown with, I've learnt more about small gang ops in TMFED from RTS, maz3r and the rest of the crew than I ever did anywhere else.
There are also few corps that love amarr AND all of Faction warfare.

So STFU :P

we are terrible though btw...........

p.s.
Gump has a specific comb for his beard



Sad to hear that you waste your time and resources for irrelevant thingies.


Going to elaborate or was that just a post to accenuate your name?

Edit* actually I just did something there I'd rather not do so don't answer, it's fine. I'm being drawn into forum posting because I'm unhappy at all the shitposting and really, no matter how much I can answer all the dumb assery all i actually end up becoming is a shitposter like everyone else.

Carry on :P


I do not really know what you are trying to achieve. Are you trying to play FW or just get some PVP?
If you try to play FW sov warfare you are doing wrong. Also it seems that you do not get PVP either.

So can you even tell what you are trying to do?



It would be nice if this were not an "either or" question.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
RTSAvalanche
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#235 - 2012-08-21 15:58:48 UTC
Let's make this simple

The loosing side at tier 1 will pay 1 Million LP for a single battle ship - where as the winning side at Tier5 can cash out on that ships equal for 62,500 LP. The loosing side doesn't have the resources to get a foothold & to esculate the problem to take a system that you can not dock in, the enemy will always have the advange - being able to reship quickly for different plexes is very important.

Please note I'm leaving out all forms of stats like timezons, online militia, active corps & other such (possible) factors. These were two of the big changes with inferno that need to be looked at. Winners deserve to have the perks, PVE should not be the way to win the war, getting LP to shoot wartargets is a great idea - The loosing side needs a way to fight back!

PS -

I personaly Joined FW (over nullsec because)

- I can dock in every station! (Important for those of us with busier life styles... or quite bloated? =p)

- No bubbles (A mechanic when used on subcaps on gates makes traveling around systems a dice roll, much like ecm in a game where everything else requires a large amount of skill.. well generaly)

- No Diplomat / Sov (It purely was about the PVP, that's all we ever wanted - Back to basics is what CCP said recently, well take us back to the PVP - I get no enjoyment of chasing out T1 frigs orbitin buttons)

-Small Gang warfare (yes i'm well aware this happens in nullsec too, but it was well renounded in FW as being one of the hot spots to particapte in it, but with alliances able to join & everyone so concerned about "protecting the isk" rather than wanting a GF.. you tell me where that leave small gangs?)


anyways that's some personal thoughts of mine, this was quite rushed as I am actualy cooking right now, so if this post should get a reply I hope i can respond better to that in the near future! =]
Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
#236 - 2012-08-21 16:33:22 UTC
Actually, you know what the worst element of the new system is?

Once we flip the last system we won't have any offensive plexes to farm LP from. This is horribly broken and needs fixing ASAP. It's be nice to know that once we flip the last system our defensive efforts will be rewarded...
RTSAvalanche
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#237 - 2012-08-21 16:48:51 UTC
Machiavelli's Nemesis wrote:
Actually, you know what the worst element of the new system is?

Once we flip the last system we won't have any offensive plexes to farm LP from. This is horribly broken and needs fixing ASAP. It's be nice to know that once we flip the last system our defensive efforts will be rewarded...


meh, you guys can go back to missions in SB's ...with Tier5
Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
#238 - 2012-08-21 16:51:09 UTC
I shouldn't have to. All I'm demanding is that CCP change the game to better suit my purposes and playstyle. Is that so much to ask?
Thomas Kreshant
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#239 - 2012-08-21 17:18:31 UTC
Machiavelli's Nemesis wrote:
I shouldn't have to. All I'm demanding is that CCP change the game to better suit my purposes and playstyle. Is that so much to ask?


No not at all. As with all things a company can either respond to the customers wishes or the customer can take his business elsewhere as there are plenty more games to choose from.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#240 - 2012-08-21 18:04:30 UTC
Machiavelli's Nemesis wrote:
Actually, you know what the worst element of the new system is?

Once we flip the last system we won't have any offensive plexes to farm LP from. This is horribly broken and needs fixing ASAP. It's be nice to know that once we flip the last system our defensive efforts will be rewarded...


I take it you are kidding, but some of those in your minmafarm-house presented this as a real concern.

You no longer get paid for farming after your pve ships have managed to flip all the systems. Shocked Sadly you can milk the cow dry.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815