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Incursions gate camps----whats the idea behind it?
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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2012-08-19 01:19:39 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Gun Gal wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Maybe so, but if that's the case then I don't agree with the design intent.



maybe if you learned to play eve you would not be so upset?

lets see, jump scout in, scout gets insta popped.

did you check log of scout? did you see it was sansha?
did you notice they do heavy em and therm damage?

did you doa quick refit to get resists up above 80% before jumping in?

do you ever check incursion hotspots to see if your close to one, especially in lowsec?

you didnt do any of these, hence you dying less than spectacularily,

hate to say it but, man L2P, lowsec is rife with outlaws, both human and npc.

You seem to think OP and I are the same person.

Also, incursion rats do omni damage. So I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Commander Spurty
#22 - 2012-08-19 01:20:57 UTC
Man dies to NPCs, posts rage tears.

What is this? 2006?

Nothing to fix here.

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

Built by CCP
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#23 - 2012-08-19 01:23:40 UTC
Joe Hinken
Cetan Consortium
#24 - 2012-08-19 01:32:36 UTC
Wow, this thread answered something I've always had in the back of my head.

Not too long after I first started playing, I took an untanked Badger into lowsec to do a courier contract. My Badger was destroyed at a gate, and looking at the combat log with the friend who got me into EvE to figure out what happened, we saw I was killed by True Power. It had always confused me because he told me "nah, rats don't gatecamp".

Apparently, rats camp gates.

Brick Royl > bad timing the isk is deflating fatser then a baloon in a cactus shop
praznimrak
Level Up
#25 - 2012-08-19 01:38:21 UTC
Gun Gal wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Maybe so, but if that's the case then I don't agree with the design intent.



maybe if you learned to play eve you would not be so upset?

lets see, jump scout in, scout gets insta popped.

did you check log of scout? did you see it was sansha?
did you notice they do heavy em and therm damage?

did you doa quick refit to get resists up above 80% before jumping in?

do you ever check incursion hotspots to see if your close to one, especially in lowsec?

you didnt do any of these, hence you dying less than spectacularily,

hate to say it but, man L2P, lowsec is rife with outlaws, both human and npc.



This game is full of experts like you.
Mr expert it is fine for you that a scout got poped by insta locking,huge dps,incredibel range web npc on a stargate????

it did not hapend to you or any other WISE GIVINGOPPINION MTF in this post,So STFU .

Seems all the fails of RL did become experts in football,cars,politics and now EVE too.

My youtube chanell: http://www.youtube.com/user/EveOnlineGameplay
praznimrak
Level Up
#26 - 2012-08-19 01:42:27 UTC
Spurty wrote:
Man dies to NPCs, posts rage tears.

What is this? 2006?

Nothing to fix here.



Where do you guys come out from??
Moar tiers, nothing to see here move on,work as intended and so on...are you some kind of boot writend down to fill the forums whit stupid comments,or you reali dont have nothing better to do in your life except write crap ???

Like oh i just sad"Moar tiers" so im on another forum post,must be looking cool.

My youtube chanell: http://www.youtube.com/user/EveOnlineGameplay
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#27 - 2012-08-19 01:47:00 UTC
praznimrak wrote:
This game is full of experts like you.
Mr expert it is fine for you that a scout got poped by insta locking,huge dps,incredibel range web npc on a stargate????

it did not hapend to you or any other WISE GIVINGOPPINION MTF in this post,So STFU .

Seems all the fails of RL did become experts in football,cars,politics and now EVE too.



Since you ignorantly walked into a trap outgunned.
You were blessed with the brilliance of knowledge that iridescently shattered the void of space.

What did you take away from this experience?

Nothing.

Adapt or whine. The true motto of a capsuleer.
Gun Gal
Dark Club
#28 - 2012-08-19 01:50:40 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Gun Gal wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Maybe so, but if that's the case then I don't agree with the design intent.



maybe if you learned to play eve you would not be so upset?

lets see, jump scout in, scout gets insta popped.

did you check log of scout? did you see it was sansha?
did you notice they do heavy em and therm damage?

did you doa quick refit to get resists up above 80% before jumping in?

do you ever check incursion hotspots to see if your close to one, especially in lowsec?

you didnt do any of these, hence you dying less than spectacularily,

hate to say it but, man L2P, lowsec is rife with outlaws, both human and npc.

You seem to think OP and I are the same person.

Also, incursion rats do omni damage. So I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here.


bleh, your exactly right, i might add though, if anyone out there is a rum drinker, bacardi anejo rum is like water from heaven, and i shant post again till im sober Big smile
Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2012-08-19 02:00:28 UTC
Actually, it'll make less sense if sansha forces don't camp the gates imo, seeing they're there to invade/disturb the space and all and gates are places where people comes in and out. If I were to invade a certain spot, I'd be sure to watch the gate for people coming in and out, just sayin.

"I'd rather have other players get shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#30 - 2012-08-19 02:01:40 UTC
praznimrak wrote:
What is the point of gate camps made of sansha npcs????

I dont get it,i m travelling whit my pvp ship true low sec,having to avoid pirates,war targets and i just discovered that all of that is peace of cake compared whit sansha gate camp.

Jumped thrue gate in small gang ,and first to decloak was a frig that got scrambeld and insta poped and after that my heavily tanked navy omen,that did survive 5 man bc gang,10 man frig and desis,was almost insta poped by THRUE POWER.
Neutralized,scramed,webd and receiving insane amount of dps by NPC CAMP IN LOW SEC.



WHAT IS THE IDEA BEHIND THIS CCP.

It is not,fun,there is nothing to learn from it,gates are full of wracks of ppl that did not decide to engage in npc combat site,just traveld and got ganked by NPCS.

Remove npcs from gates,incursions are there to be engage in combat sites and not to gank ppl passing true system.

And if you insist on keeping tham on gates,make tham agres stations,POS structures,make sleepers agres ppl on wormholes,and so on.

Sanshas dont make sense on gates, especial not in numbers and power that can take BS in few sec.

FIX IT PLEASE




Wait a minute, a PVPer having PVE forced on him, and he's crying in the forums about it?

C'mon. This can't be real.

Though I can believe that Sansha can hit that hard. Many a lvl 4 mission drake went down on the first day of Incursion content, usually to 2 or 3 hits.

(Got the logs to prove it Oops )

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
The D1ngo
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2012-08-19 03:19:07 UTC
praznimrak wrote:
What is the point of gate camps made of sansha npcs????

I dont get it,i m travelling whit my pvp ship true low sec,having to avoid pirates,war targets and i just discovered that all of that is peace of cake compared whit sansha gate camp.

Jumped thrue gate in small gang ,and first to decloak was a frig that got scrambeld and insta poped and after that my heavily tanked navy omen,that did survive 5 man bc gang,10 man frig and desis,was almost insta poped by THRUE POWER.
Neutralized,scramed,webd and receiving insane amount of dps by NPC CAMP IN LOW SEC.



WHAT IS THE IDEA BEHIND THIS CCP.

It is not,fun,there is nothing to learn from it,gates are full of wracks of ppl that did not decide to engage in npc combat site,just traveld and got ganked by NPCS.

Remove npcs from gates,incursions are there to be engage in combat sites and not to gank ppl passing true system.

And if you insist on keeping tham on gates,make tham agres stations,POS structures,make sleepers agres ppl on wormholes,and so on.

Sanshas dont make sense on gates, especial not in numbers and power that can take BS in few sec.

FIX IT PLEASE


I always wanted to post in a tearful "PvPer got ganked by NPC's" thread, I just never thought anyone would ever own up to that kind of indignity. I mean the shame this guy must have overcome just to type it out... Imma give him a fake +1 cuz he made me empathize with him.

Dry your eyes PvPBear it's going to be Ok.

I am going to unsubscribe all 11 of my accounts now. I have seen it all...
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#32 - 2012-08-19 03:26:20 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:


Nonconsensual PVP is necessary of course for this game, but nonconsensual PVE, at least on the level of intensity that the incursion rats have, is ridiculous.


Now I've heard it all NULL seccers complaining about non-consensual PvE Roll
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Russell Casey
Doomheim
#33 - 2012-08-19 03:28:56 UTC
It's totally unfair, PvP'ers having PvE forced on them like this----and WHY DIDN'T THOSE RATS SHOW UP IN LOCAL?!?!?!
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2012-08-19 03:33:43 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:


Nonconsensual PVP is necessary of course for this game, but nonconsensual PVE, at least on the level of intensity that the incursion rats have, is ridiculous.


Now I've heard it all NULL seccers complaining about non-consensual PvE Roll

My point is that it's frivolous computer controlled content that interferes with the main focus of the game.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Jonni Favorite
Red Slice Enterprise
#35 - 2012-08-19 03:49:03 UTC
Poasting in a thread about hardcore pvp guy crying about getting owned by rats..
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2012-08-19 03:56:58 UTC
It's not so much that, they're easy to avoid if you're not an idiot, but it does impede movement and provide a major inconvenience.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#37 - 2012-08-19 04:05:35 UTC
I am glad I saw this thread. Now I know better than to go into... wait a minute!

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Messoroz
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#38 - 2012-08-19 04:18:59 UTC
Lowsec pvpers feeling a taste of their own medicine. *smokes cigar*
Pinkamena Diane-Pie
XieDu Fleet
#39 - 2012-08-19 04:29:50 UTC
After having my home system ravaged by an incursion for about 2 weeks, I have grown to hate them. I think their power level is fine and they do act quite a lot like other plays in terms of intelligence. My problem with them is they are too random IMO. I've been able to get BC's through gatecamps consisting of BS/Cruisers/Frigs, but other times I can't even get a frigate through before I get insta scrammed and popped.
Jypsie
Wandering Star Enterprises
#40 - 2012-08-19 04:41:51 UTC
Jonni Favorite wrote:
Poasting in a thread about hardcore pvp guy crying about getting owned by rats..

Poasting in a stealth low-sec-gate-camp-changes whine thread.

However I do agree that they should put them back in high-sec systems. When first heard that Incursion rats were going to gate camp, I was excited about it as it would bring meaningful dynamic pve content. Want to get to the Amarr trade hub? Going to have to patrol the path with people so you can get your freighters through!

I thought the video showing some freighters and orcas getting blasted on the gate was awesome.

Then probably some idiot on autopilot got blown up, lost a few bil and whined enough that CCP dumbed it down for high sec.

Meh.