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We need more AOE to counter blobs
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James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#101 - 2012-08-22 18:28:52 UTC
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So the counter to blob is to have a bigger blob ? Isn't that the definition of unbalanced game design , when something can only be beaten by more of itself ?

Here's the problem with that complaint. While a smaller, well-organized, technically superior fleet is a counter to a blob, people who complain about blobs don't actually bring such a fleet. They bring a smaller fleet that's just as poorly-organized and with ships that aren't any better. They lose because their fleet is worse. They are not elite bushido space samurai, they're more of the same, with fewer ships.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#102 - 2012-08-22 23:51:17 UTC
NEONOVUS wrote:
A more entertaining idea would be to have the unguided weapons do aoe equal to their current radius.
Would do little to a thinking enemy (Oh look this guy just warped to us, hey think fast)
But might just make approach FC press F1 not the best of plans.
Which is really what the complaints are about.
As small gangs and roams are far more fun to be in/fight against.

So we'd all be spamming HAM drakes or torp ravens? Interesting. HAM Spec, here we goooooo

No wait ...

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Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#103 - 2012-08-23 01:16:24 UTC
Andski wrote:
the counter to blobs is "make friends"


But surely having more friends enables larger blobs ..........


oh wait i see what u did there .....
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#104 - 2012-08-23 01:22:33 UTC
Kitty Bear wrote:
Andski wrote:
the counter to blobs is "make friends"

But surely having more friends enables larger blobs ..........

oh wait i see what u did there .....

It's us, your friendly blobbers <3

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Arbiter Reformed
I Have a Plan
Shadow Cartel
#105 - 2012-08-23 01:31:59 UTC
t2 torps should do splash damage, jus sayin... not massive just some. it would wreak havoc with logi calls and give ships like the raven more viability
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#106 - 2012-08-23 01:52:19 UTC
Arbiter Reformed wrote:
t2 torps should do splash damage, jus sayin... not massive just some. it would wreak havoc with logi calls and give ships like the raven more viability

What's really funny is how much the rage torps/ HAMs increase your sig radius, making it ever easier to be shot at by things like, oh I don't know

Titans

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Frying Doom
#107 - 2012-08-23 02:19:29 UTC
Ashera Yune wrote:
With growing blobs and the removal of the AOE Doomsday we need new weapons to counter massive blobs.


Bombs should be changed so that they can no longer be damaged, removing the limit of how many bombs your fleet can fire.


And a new class for Destroyers, Heavy Bomber.

These destroyers are paper thin but packs a punch with the ability to fit 8 bomb launchers and having special bonuses to bombs.

Role: -75% explosion radius

Racial Destroyer: 5% damage type bonus per level and -10% reactivation time per level.

Heavy Bomber bonus: 10% explosion velocity and 10% greater effect to Lockbreaker and Void Bombs.

This will make blobs more wary and balance the playing field.

Nah

Personally I would just like a chicken launcher.Lol

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
nate555
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#108 - 2012-08-23 04:16:33 UTC
The old doomsday weapons were the counter to blobs. But people cried about that. It makes sence that one ship isn't the key to victory, but still. Could have been kept if worked on a little more I think.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#109 - 2012-08-23 12:28:48 UTC
nate555 wrote:
The old doomsday weapons were the counter to blobs. But people cried about that. It makes sence that one ship isn't the key to victory, but still. Could have been kept if worked on a little more I think.

Yes, let's bring that back now. Sounds like it would scale really well with the two titans we have.

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Yeep
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#110 - 2012-08-23 12:35:56 UTC
nate555 wrote:
The old doomsday weapons were the counter to blobs. But people cried about that. It makes sence that one ship isn't the key to victory, but still. Could have been kept if worked on a little more I think.


Sure, in so much as they were also the counter to small gangs of frigates and occasionally solo industrials.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#111 - 2012-08-23 12:43:54 UTC
nate555 wrote:
The old doomsday weapons were the counter to blobs. But people cried about that. It makes sence that one ship isn't the key to victory, but still. Could have been kept if worked on a little more I think.

Warp in 50 titans, doomsday everything up to (and including) every heavily tanked dread/carriers on grid in one go.

What do you mean this is fair and balanced?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#112 - 2012-08-23 12:48:05 UTC
Zenos Ebeth wrote:
Andski wrote:
the counter to blobs is "make friends"


So the counter to blob is to have a bigger blob ? Isn't that the definition of unbalanced game design , when something can only be beaten by more of itself ?


You are doing it wrong if you expect your enemy to play fair

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
MisterNick
The Sagan Clan
#113 - 2012-08-23 16:32:01 UTC
Confirming that bombs in groups of 8 won't destroy each other at all, in any way, no sir.

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