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Jaques Cousteau Gemulus
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-08-18 18:49:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaques Cousteau Gemulus
find your game and press F1 with your dingeling
TheBreadMuncher
Protus Correction Facility Inc.
#2 - 2012-08-18 18:58:57 UTC
Ship spinning

"We will create the introduction thread if that is requested by the community. Also, we will have an ISD Seminar about the CCL team in the coming weeks in which you can ask your questions about the CCL team and provide some constructive feedback to us." - Countless pages of locked threads and numerous permabanned accounts later, change is coming.

Whadafool
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-08-18 19:02:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Whadafool
take them to low sec and pod them...best thing you can do for a new player.

stuff

Jaques Cousteau Gemulus
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-08-18 19:10:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaques Cousteau Gemulus
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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-08-18 19:15:01 UTC
Jaques Cousteau Gemulus wrote:
For example, if you would like Goonswarm to loose, you sabotage there income in some manner for instance.

How exactly do you think this would be accomplished?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

TheBreadMuncher
Protus Correction Facility Inc.
#6 - 2012-08-18 19:16:50 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
How exactly do you think this would be accomplished?


Isn't it obvious? You just drop your ~1,000 man fleet on their tech moon POSes!

"We will create the introduction thread if that is requested by the community. Also, we will have an ISD Seminar about the CCL team in the coming weeks in which you can ask your questions about the CCL team and provide some constructive feedback to us." - Countless pages of locked threads and numerous permabanned accounts later, change is coming.

Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#7 - 2012-08-18 19:23:50 UTC
TheBreadMuncher wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
How exactly do you think this would be accomplished?


Isn't it obvious? You just drop your ~1,000 man fleet on their tech moon POSes!

Nah, you protest for two years spinning in station waiting for them to move moon goo into a active gathering activity like ring mining.
Then you protest for another three years when they keep those materials in the same exact systems.
Jaques Cousteau Gemulus
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-08-18 19:29:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaques Cousteau Gemulus
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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-08-18 19:33:32 UTC
Jaques Cousteau Gemulus wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Jaques Cousteau Gemulus wrote:
For example, if you would like Goonswarm to loose, you sabotage there income in some manner for instance.

How exactly do you think this would be accomplished?


Read initial post.

If anyone would tell how exactly, it would not work.

Common people, stop trolling, have a brain, you will see it is for the greater good (new players wanting to start a "career" in EvE....and hey.....maybe venture out into other sec space other than highsec........this is nul-sec greatest problem......maybe being tackeled)

Or do you not like these smaller corps snooping around your null-sec and maybe target something back without the need to wardec or a chance on security loss?

It was a rhetorical question. My point was that this is an unrealistic goal for new players.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-08-18 19:37:19 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Jaques Cousteau Gemulus wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Jaques Cousteau Gemulus wrote:
For example, if you would like Goonswarm to loose, you sabotage there income in some manner for instance.

How exactly do you think this would be accomplished?


Read initial post.

If anyone would tell how exactly, it would not work.

Common people, stop trolling, have a brain, you will see it is for the greater good (new players wanting to start a "career" in EvE....and hey.....maybe venture out into other sec space other than highsec........this is nul-sec greatest problem......maybe being tackeled)

Or do you not like these smaller corps snooping around your null-sec and maybe target something back without the need to wardec or a chance on security loss?

It was a rhetorical question. My point was that this is an unrealistic goal for new players.



They can't already do whatever without being scamed/can flipped/ganked, now tell them they will be space rich going in low/null do serious stuff Lol

brb

Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#11 - 2012-08-18 19:40:14 UTC
Sandcastles ftw!

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-08-18 20:09:38 UTC
Jaques Cousteau Gemulus wrote:
Ow common, EvE has many intelligent people,


You aren't one of them. Figure out your own stuff to do.

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Jaques Cousteau Gemulus
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-08-18 20:25:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaques Cousteau Gemulus
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Jaques Cousteau Gemulus
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-08-18 20:28:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaques Cousteau Gemulus
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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-08-18 20:29:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Mallak Azaria
Jaques Cousteau Gemulus wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Jaques Cousteau Gemulus wrote:
Ow common, EvE has many intelligent people,


You aren't one of them. Figure out your own stuff to do.


I am not saying I am intelligent. I am however figuring "stuff" out to do for myself.

Now let us all give gameplay hints on stuff for new or young players or corps to sink their teeth into.

You do not need 130+ Million SP to arrange a covert bombing run on miners in null-sec which happen to be from a alliance that is already at war.

It takes about 7 million SP.
And you can have a real thrill and learn sooooo much.


Now, I am sure there are players who have ideas to, lets have them!

Jaques Cousteau Gemulus wrote:
No, lets tell them you can have interesting gameplay even if you are , say below 10M SP.
EvE is not just about getting rich.



Google.com

It really works. There's also thousands of threads that will give you idea's on these forums & in the old archived forums. You could also... Just try stuff?

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Jaques Cousteau Gemulus
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-08-18 20:44:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaques Cousteau Gemulus
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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-08-18 20:48:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Mallak Azaria
Jaques Cousteau Gemulus wrote:
I think you might have misunderstood the goal for this thread.

You see, it is not about me, I know plenty stuff to do and do them.

I think if there is one thing seriously lacking than it would be the visibility of valid game play.

Lets make it visible.
The option I offered is completely valid.

And if destruction is to big a thing, people will probably also realize that they can obstruct mineral income just by being at the location in a cloak

Most mining ops will dock up, an occasional bomb will amplify any fear when needed.



Common lets give these people something to look at.
In which I would have to agree, google does do wonders when planning your operations as a new entity.

If any new players are getting interested, Just mail Tiger Would. Maybe I can help some of you new guys along a bit!


The solution I offered is completely valid. If people are too lazy to do a couple of quick searches to find the plethora of information available then odds are that they're too lazy to try any of that stuff anyway. It's not like this information is hidden from public view.

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Jaques Cousteau Gemulus
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-08-18 20:59:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaques Cousteau Gemulus
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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-08-18 21:07:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Mallak Azaria
Jaques Cousteau Gemulus wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Jaques Cousteau Gemulus wrote:
I think you might have misunderstood the goal for this thread.

You see, it is not about me, I know plenty stuff to do and do them.

I think if there is one thing seriously lacking than it would be the visibility of valid game play.

Lets make it visible.
The option I offered is completely valid.

And if destruction is to big a thing, people will probably also realize that they can obstruct mineral income just by being at the location in a cloak

Most mining ops will dock up, an occasional bomb will amplify any fear when needed.



Common lets give these people something to look at.
In which I would have to agree, google does do wonders when planning your operations as a new entity.

If any new players are getting interested, Just mail Tiger Would. Maybe I can help some of you new guys along a bit!


The solution I offered is completely valid. If people are too lazy to do a couple of quick searches to find the plethora of information available then odds are that they're too lazy to try any of that stuff anyway. It's not like this information is hidden from public view.



But answer me this:

If you do not know the entire scope of EvE yet.....and lets be honest, who did when they subscribed?
If I look at me personally, sure I read the guides back than, figured out the mechanics.....but thats just such a small part.

I dare to say, many do not have a clue what so ever in regards to depth, politics and propaganda....
I think it is this that make to many people think that EvE should be played as it is played now. Hereby obstructing the visibility of the fact that anything goes, it is a sandbox.

And why is it exactly that EvE has trouble keeping subscribers.....I mean, controlling your spaceship, fitting it out, those are not hard parts.

I say it is this:

You see this advertisement of emergent gameplay. one day you join.
You think....I am going to be a big industrialist. (for example)

Than it does not look like that gameplay at all. It looks like there is no room for you. It looks like you can only join larger entities but never become one. Which in a large part is fueled by propaganda and trolling (like in this thread)

You do not get the feeling you can actually become anything you want.

I dare to say that hurts the number new subscribers actually having a stab at it.

I am not saying, make it easy.

I say, lets make it visible.



Now instead of responding saying nay again, do you have anything to add in this regard?

If not, it would be better not to post, since it would be topic.


People are only limited by the ammount of effort they're willing to put in to becomming what they wish. The information regarding anything they wish to do in the game is visible with a few quick google searches or god-forbid, actually browsing through the main EVE site.

If they're too lazy or unwilling to look at the information from both CCP & it's players over the years, then the only thing holding them back from becomming whatever it is they wish to be is themselves. It has absolutely nothing to do with visibility when the information is already visible.

To answer your above question: No, I was not aware of the scope of EVE when I first played. I did how ever get out there & read said plethora of information regarding what I ultimately wanted to do. I was not held back at any point because I actually put some effort in to enjoying the game I play.

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Tiger Would
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-08-18 21:09:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiger Would
no

Once you think you have it all, you have actually become ignorant towards everything else.

T. Would

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