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Cleansing Isk Farmers from WH Space
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QT McWhiskers
EdgeGamers
#41 - 2012-08-20 09:30:33 UTC  |  Edited by: QT McWhiskers
You see its like this. The "Rmt" Russian WHers farm out their WH and produce t3s, which they then sell to shell corporations. The shell corporations then refine said t3s into their base minerals, and then sell said minerals to other shell entities. These entities then purchase plex from the profits of the refined t3 minerals. These plex are then traded between goons and test until they end up back into the hands of the RMT WH russians. Once they have control of the plex, they are sold on the open market as "legitimate purchases" to unsuspecting players. The profits from these plex transactions are then sold for real money.

It all makes perfect sense.

Dont even get me started on the whole Technetium/Cobalt scheme.
Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#42 - 2012-08-20 09:57:31 UTC
Abdul Secheh wrote:
M8's, telling that all russians are RMT'ers is like telling that all russians are alcoholics Big smile

So you confess? Shocked

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TommyTwiddle
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2012-08-20 11:39:54 UTC
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/J215930/stats/2012-08-01:2012-08-16

Just interesting, how much dollars i earned in my dirty rmt operations, from beginning of month...
May be our prosecutor with no face could count ?
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2012-08-20 12:43:16 UTC
Xen Solarus wrote:
If there was an easy way to identify and elliminate botters and isk-farmers, then it would have been done by now.

So, ISK farming is not a legit gameplay anymore and falls under cathegory of bannable offences the way botting does? Good to know that, from now on I'll refise to take bounties/rewards/market gains in order to keep myself from being banned Roll

Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#45 - 2012-08-20 14:17:33 UTC
How to hinder w-space operations: keep a covops alt in system and deploy a set of combat probes. recall and deploy them every hour to keep them alive. It's like AFK cloaking in nullsec, but with a minor investment of time.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#46 - 2012-08-20 14:19:19 UTC
Barrogh Habalu wrote:
Xen Solarus wrote:
If there was an easy way to identify and elliminate botters and isk-farmers, then it would have been done by now.

So, ISK farming is not a legit gameplay anymore and falls under cathegory of bannable offences the way botting does? Good to know that, from now on I'll refise to take bounties/rewards/market gains in order to keep myself from being banned Roll

Farmers sell their isk for cash, which is a bannable offense. You're confusing farming and grinding. Grinding for ISK is something almost all of us do so we can do other stuff.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Calsys
Monks of War
#47 - 2012-08-20 16:37:34 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
How to hinder w-space operations: keep a covops alt in system and deploy a set of combat probes. recall and deploy them every hour to keep them alive. It's like AFK cloaking in nullsec, but with a minor investment of time.

wh isnt nullsecs
combat probes dont scare wh dwellers lol
TOJICTOTA
True Power Team
#48 - 2012-08-20 18:18:42 UTC
sadly that trollface is disappeared. may be he went to the royal amarr school. coz even in school teach that to farm 24\7 u don't need c6 wh\corpmates\faction POSes\etc.....only need is to run 6 accounts. so....troll otsoso u mene ! Lol
Slaktoid
Perkone
Caldari State
#49 - 2012-08-20 22:49:01 UTC
Iskfarming is cool. It's way too easy and effective, but it's cool. We need money to buy ships that we can get blown up.

If I wanted to I could box 6 accounts and make 20-30 bill a week. It'd be horribly and utterly boring, and sometimes I might get ganked, but the net gain is just riddiculous. This will probably change sooner or later. In more ways than one. The only challenge atm is the logistical challenge of replacing the ganked caps. The leeching will probably be fixed and the general isk income in W-Space will probably be nerfed in the future. We're making way too much money anyway, it will be good with some nerfs.

We as the community have the tools to whatever we want. Jealous about Power of Two printing ISK? Go fracking gank and evict them then!
Pink Marshmellow
Caucasian Culture Club
#50 - 2012-08-21 08:08:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Pink Marshmellow
Slaktoid wrote:
Iskfarming is cool. It's way too easy and effective, but it's cool. We need money to buy ships that we can get blown up.

If I wanted to I could box 6 accounts and make 20-30 bill a week. It'd be horribly and utterly boring, and sometimes I might get ganked, but the net gain is just riddiculous. This will probably change sooner or later. In more ways than one. The only challenge atm is the logistical challenge of replacing the ganked caps. The leeching will probably be fixed and the general isk income in W-Space will probably be nerfed in the future. We're making way too much money anyway, it will be good with some nerfs.

We as the community have the tools to whatever we want. Jealous about Power of Two printing ISK? Go fracking gank and evict them then!


If you consider the amount of effort, time, investment, skills, and experience needed to start out along with the risk of several things going wrong, I would say the reward is quite balanced.

You can not farm Capital Escalations 23.5/7 constantly like you can with Nullsec Anomalies, Missions, Incursions, etc.

Otherwise wormhole space would be a lot quieter as it simply wouldn't be worth it other wise.

This is not some easy sit down casual gameplay. Making isk in wormhole space can almost become like a full time job and gets boring.

I believe the OP is incorrect, Power of Two is not associated with ROL, they have closer relations with -A-.

I don't know about 0.0 Politics, but the amount of Isk they make is only pennies compared to the massive universe wide botting going on, 0.0 probably uses it more for war effort rather than RMT, which is generated by macro ratters and miners.

If we don't want Farmers we could just form a massive Coalition and form something similar to OTEC. Where we strictly control the T3 market and evict and destroy everyone who does not comply with our rules without mercy.

But then Wormhole Space will become another Nullsec, no one will bother venturing into wormhole space knowing that they will just get their asses handed out.


Wormhole will become much quieter and stagnant and we would become the very things we despised and wanted to avoid.

Speaking of which has Wormhole Space been rather quiet lately this summer? I believe it is time to rekindle the fire.
Bernie Nator
Seal Club Six
Plug N Play
#51 - 2012-08-21 09:09:07 UTC
Calsys wrote:
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
How to hinder w-space operations: keep a covops alt in system and deploy a set of combat probes. recall and deploy them every hour to keep them alive. It's like AFK cloaking in nullsec, but with a minor investment of time.

wh isnt nullsecs
combat probes dont scare wh dwellers lol

The only time combat probes are scary is when you're gas mining two systems deep from home. Other than that, if you have combats out for anything past 5 minutes, you are getting laughed at.
chris elliot
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#52 - 2012-08-21 09:25:00 UTC
Calsys wrote:
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
How to hinder w-space operations: keep a covops alt in system and deploy a set of combat probes. recall and deploy them every hour to keep them alive. It's like AFK cloaking in nullsec, but with a minor investment of time.

wh isnt nullsecs
combat probes dont scare wh dwellers lol


Combat probes make wh people go. "sh*t sh*t guys, get your sh*t and lets go, pew is coming to us for a change gogogo"..... or something along those lines.
Dan Carter Murray
#53 - 2012-08-21 10:06:14 UTC
Kimerra wrote:
MisterAl tt1 wrote:
(I'd expect this topic going down to "all russians are bastards" way).


like this http://imgur.com/a/oUUXy#66
thank's to Вritish FW-corp for this creative poster


I think you meant to link this one? http://imgur.com/a/oUUXy#60

The author isn't British

http://mfi.re/?j7ldoco 50GB free space @ MediaFire.com
MisterAl tt1
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2012-08-21 11:23:25 UTC
Quote:
I believe the OP is incorrect, Power of Two is not associated with ROL, they have closer relations with -A-.
-A- has their own bunch of farmers: TDT and some others, keeping them supplied with T3. And people here kill them from time to time, since from what I know - I'd say TDT and others farm even more, then the named. Or used to and planned to farm even more.
Chitsa Jason
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#55 - 2012-08-21 12:46:48 UTC
I just love reading about conspiracy theories :)

Burn the land and boil the sea You can't take the sky from me
Ext Semah
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#56 - 2012-08-22 15:54:11 UTC
P0WER 0F TW0 = RMT team
all russians know it
Zarak1 Kenpach1
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2012-08-25 22:56:34 UTC
AHARM and many other like minded corporations disapprove of these organizations actions. While their blobs can be formidable in numbers, they typically lack the skills or morale to effectively deal with the coalitions that have moved against them in the past. Even fellow russian groups such as Starbridge have begun taking a dim view of the actions of TPT and PO2.

AHARM will always be a PVP corporation dedicated to fostering a competitive spirit inside the anoikis. That means groups of this nature get priority when we determine targets for eviction.

-Z
Former AHARM Siege Director
seany1212
M Y S T
#58 - 2012-08-26 10:59:15 UTC
Chitsa Jason wrote:
I just love reading about conspiracy theories :)


Not empty quotin'

I love those who post threads like these and do nothing about it themselves, its like the highsec carebears that rage on the forums that their hulk got ganked but do nothing but buy a hulk and keep on mining Lol
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#59 - 2012-08-26 12:57:04 UTC
seany1212 wrote:
Chitsa Jason wrote:
I just love reading about conspiracy theories :)


Not empty quotin'

I love those who post threads like these and do nothing about it themselves, its like the highsec carebears that rage on the forums that their hulk got ganked but do nothing but buy a hulk and keep on mining Lol


Or make a post about making stupid posts AMIRITE???

Cool

http://www.wormholes.info
Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#60 - 2012-10-01 12:48:25 UTC
I came across two C5 farming outposts of nullsec alliances just this weekend. Systems where very few people farm massive ISK with cap escalations every day like clockwork. Either they are alts of nullsec players who do this like a job, and are probably actually paid for it. Or the accounts are shared among several people and they work in shifts.

Separately, I saw some notable individuals from infamous wormhole alliances fly in fleet with members of nullsec alliances, which happened to be in one case the same alliance the farming outposts belonged to. Which made me a little sad. I had heard fabulous stories of wh alliances banding together to keep the nullsec guys out of our game.

Just coincidence or does anyone else see hints of nullsec farmers getting a hold in w-space, and wh alliances allying with them?

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