EVE New Citizens Q&A

how do people do have the patience as a new player to wait for the cool ships to go pvping and such it seems such a drag i go out in 0.0 rat some belts hope for a true sansha make isk and hide froms 50 percent of the time

am i in a bad corp? i mean i like some of the people in here i just dont understand

OP... please define "cool ships."

I personally find my Vexor to be a "cool ship" and it doesn't take too long to get into it.


More than that...

- bigger ships =/= better
- more expensive =/= better
- T2 =/= better

Each ship has a "specialty" (i.e. it is good at something and bad at other things) and more expensive stuff only brings in nominal advantages against basic T1 stuff.

basicly eve's idea is to force you to wait to get better. it's a great way to hold on to it's players, because they ALWAYS have something to look foward to. it's a way of saying, no you cannot grind monsters for 20 hours straight and zoom to high level, you must pay 15 dollers per month, and in return we will give you 4-5 million exp. If you want to fly the super cool ships, you are going to need to play for at least a couple months, which means you will have to give us more money

The sad thing is the older player you become you realise you don't need to fly the shiny ships anymore, I spend most of my time in frigates or cheap bc's now.

ou can do alot worse that getting in a rifter and causing havoc.

Is that because the ship is super cheap, and you don't have to worry about losing it, or because you genuinely prefer flying the newer ship because it's better in so any ways?

Because I genuinely prefer them.
I reached the point in my career when ISK is no longer an issue for anything.

Sure, you can go to null sec as 2 day old char, but yes, those big nasty NPC battleships are not something you can take on.
PVE wise, you'll have to learn to walk before you can run.

PVP now that's a different story...

The 2 day old trial toon in a rifter with tech 1 mods is a threat, a much bigger threat than those 2 day old players realise.
Simply because You are There, you have a point, you have a web, and you even have a little bit of pew pew to add to the general pew pew pile.

Why are people always yelling about the rifter?
A) it looks cool
B) it's fast
C) it can tackle/web and still have a little buffer
D) it's cheap.
E) It's just a plain cool ship.

Our alliance has litterally hundreds of spare pre-fit tech 1 rifters lieing around in our offices. If there's PvP to be done, and there's a heavy CTA where our non-pvp people are also called to help out, we open the armoury and hand those out for free.

You might think you're useless in that 100man fleet with a ton of battleships doing tons of DPS, but you're not. You're there, and you have a point, that means that you are one of the reasons those big nasty ships CAN bring down the enemy, and they can't escape before they kill YOU. Sure they can try and kill all those big scary battleships, but by the time they've eaten through those, most of their ships will be dead, because they can't escape, because YOU are there.
So yes, on that battlefield, that itty bitty rifter with a 2 day old toon is effectively a BIGGER THREAT than 10 of those big scary battleships doing oodles of damage.

Early on in Eve, I realised that there's always people aroudn with those massive gun skills to do the DPS. But the reason they can is because the rest of the fleet is there to support them.

Without Tacklers, their enemy will escape before they can finish them off

Without Ewar, their logisitcs is free to keep them alive, and their ewar is free to shut you down.

Without Logistics, the big scary pew pew ships of the enemy will eat your big shiny pew pew ship.

I'm having a hard time understanding what you don't understand?


If your corpmates don't understand the power of a new pilot in a Frigate, then yes, it's a bad corporation.


As an FC i love noobies in rifters, cuz I have every reason to throw them out and get them scouting and looking for targets for me when the pilots in bigger ships simply aren't capable of doing it, and generally want to be in the big ship that they spent "months" "learning" to fly.


You will most often find me in a frigate, faction frigate or assault frigate.

If Frigates aren't your thing you can get into Electronic Warfare cruisers in less than a week - Blackbird, Arbitrator are highly recommended.

You won't be "Awesome" but that's a lie anyways. I know players with 100M Skillpoints that are crap at PVP - I'd throw some of my newest pilots at them that I've trained.


It has nothing to do with your skillpoints and everything to do with you. That's a statement that most new players to EVE don't understand, have an impossible time trying to understand.

Ishtar is a cool ship. I pvp´ed a thrasher intruding "our" wormhole. Than my Gf pulled the plug, because she wanted to go out. When i came back to the game several minutes later, i found myself in cloning station, and suddenly felt that my Ishtar was not so cool anymore.

Long story short, most of the ships fill a role, hence they are all cool. Well not all, not the Diemost.

EVE is about what you KNOW and knowledge does not come with SP or from ingame age, it comes from putting in the effort to learn and broaden your horizon. Many players who've been around for a long time, fly big & expensive ships are entirely clueless on the game. The majority of 0.0 dwellers (even those who are in fleets) have no real clue at all, all they're good at is following orders and most of the times not even that.

Being good comes from learning and practising, NOT from flying expensive ships and bawwing about how some expensive ship you can't fly yet would be "awesome". I'd much rather have someone in a cheap ship that's been properly taught combat and pvp, who isn't a ****** and puts in the effort to learn and get ahead than some 100 mil SP clueless idiot who still thinks that bigger=better and that every problem should be solved with bigger numbers.

In short; the only one holding a young pilot back is him thinking he has to endure and wait before he's allowed to be successful.