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yet been chosen; but, there's no reason why it can't be.

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Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-08-16 22:14:12 UTC
Were it otherwise then we would be presented an entirely different system in which the penultimate and ultimate choices would not be present, leaving us only with the antepenultimate choice aforementioned as our initial choice to ponder. That we are able to imagine not only an alternative but a secondary alternative, rather than merely to expound upon the choice initially presented to us in the popular rhetoric, allows for the

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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#2 - 2012-08-16 22:20:52 UTC
A nifty knot of nothing.

... though you seem to have left a trailing end.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-08-16 22:26:07 UTC
realization that we are not now nor have we ever been locked into that initial choice. We may choose not only between the A and the not-A, or between the A and the B, but also between Question and not-Question. Our decisions need not be as limited as we are commonly given cause to believe by those who would steer our opinions towards conveniently contrived eventualities. This is a basic fact which needs no explanation, and for which boundless examples can be provided from the common experiences of individuals. When presented the option of either One, or Two,

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Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-08-17 04:12:08 UTC
While watching the local caldari broadcast in Nennamalia I came across this broadcast from a low budget studio. Honey Boo Boo


WARNING

Long term exposure can cause permanent damage to implants.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-08-17 04:17:42 UTC
the implicit message is that One and Two are the only choices when in fact the individual may choose other, unprompted responses; additionally, one may elect to disregard the question entirely, in effect juxtaposing an immeasurable set of alternate responses for those initially provided.

We arrive at the contrived duality, that one must choose the A or the not-A, the A or the B, not because those are the only possible choices but because the Question has itself been chosen. Inasmuch as this discussion is occurring at all, we assume that while possible the set of choices which follow from not-Question has not

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Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#6 - 2012-08-17 04:23:25 UTC
Caviar Liberta wrote:
While watching the local caldari broadcast in Nennamalia I came across this broadcast from a low budget studio. Honey Boo Boo


WARNING

Long term exposure can cause permanent damage to implants.


That is not Caldari, but nice try.

Katrina Oniseki

Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-08-17 04:24:04 UTC
Thank you all for listening.

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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#8 - 2012-08-17 05:04:46 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Thank you all for listening.


You've still got a trailing end stuck out there, sweetie.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-08-17 05:36:41 UTC
I am aware of exactly what I have written, and I assure you that you are mistaken.

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Kalaratiri
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#10 - 2012-08-17 05:43:54 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
the implicit message is that One and Two are the only choices when in fact the individual may choose other, unprompted responses; additionally, one may elect to disregard the question entirely, in effect juxtaposing an immeasurable set of alternate responses for those initially provided.

We arrive at the contrived duality, that one must choose the A or the not-A, the A or the B, not because those are the only possible choices but because the Question has itself been chosen. Inasmuch as this discussion is occurring at all, we assume that while possible the set of choices which follow from not-Question has not


yet been chosen; but there's no reason why it can't be.

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Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#11 - 2012-08-17 08:45:51 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Were it otherwise then we would be presented an entirely different system in which the penultimate and ultimate choices would not be present, leaving us only with the antepenultimate choice aforementioned as our initial choice to ponder. That we are able to imagine not only an alternative but a secondary alternative, rather than merely to expound upon the choice initially presented to us in the popular rhetoric, allows for the



Here's a hint:

Use big words sparingly, instead of trying to cram as many as possible, in as many places as possible.

That'll actually make you look smarter if you do it right, although I realise that in your case, that's not saying much.

Tasteful restraint, tasteful restraint...

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.

Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-08-17 09:34:51 UTC
It seems almost as if you intended to articulate your point as poorly as possible.

How cathartic.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21

Jev North
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-08-17 10:25:17 UTC
There is no shame in philosophical deconstruction -- as long as you do it in private, and wash your hands afterwards.

Even though our love is cruel; even though our stars are crossed.

Ssakaa
Animatar Foundation
#14 - 2012-08-17 12:13:48 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:

Inasmuch as this discussion is occurring at all, we assume that while possible



It's so good to know there's still a little magic in the air.

"Modern Life is Rubbish"

Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-08-17 14:33:07 UTC
As with all of my posts, this was not an attempt to look intelligent.

If you benefit from my post, then fine; if you don't, then that is also fine.

If instead of forming and expressing an opinion on my post you decided to enjoy a Quafe or shoot at people in space, then all the better.

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Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-08-17 14:41:18 UTC
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Were it otherwise then we would be presented an entirely different system in which the penultimate and ultimate choices would not be present, leaving us only with the antepenultimate choice aforementioned as our initial choice to ponder. That we are able to imagine not only an alternative but a secondary alternative, rather than merely to expound upon the choice initially presented to us in the popular rhetoric, allows for the



Here's a hint:

Use big words sparingly, instead of trying to cram as many as possible, in as many places as possible.

That'll actually make you look smarter if you do it right, although I realise that in your case, that's not saying much.

Tasteful restraint, tasteful restraint...

Upon your request, here is a version which uses exclusively small words:

Were it not so then we would see thing two where the last-but-one option and the last option would not be, and we would instead only see the prior-to-last-but-one before told to us as the only option about which to think. That we can think not only about not-One-or-Two, sub-one, but also about not-One-or-Two, sub-two, and not only to think more about the options One-or-Two told us at the start by high opinion smooth talking, lets us

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Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-08-17 14:47:59 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
As with all of my posts, this was not an attempt to look intelligent.


Well thank the Spirits.

I can stop holding my breath, now.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21

Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#18 - 2012-08-17 15:26:34 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Thank you all for listening.


Thank you for supplying your puzzle. If I may do a little deconstruction for the edification of the audience?

Should there exist a unique x, there exists y such that:
1a) y is not equal to the second-last element, b of the set S{},
1b) y is not equal to the successor of b, c, in set S{},
2) y is equal to the last allowable member of the set S{}, a, which is the successor to b.
3) b and c exist in the kernel of S{}.
4) b or c also map to other values in T{} given smooth operator N()

The conclusion is left as an exercise to the reader.
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-08-17 15:33:36 UTC
We're not friends anymore, Schere.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21

Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#20 - 2012-08-17 15:50:39 UTC
:(
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