Player Features and Ideas Discussion

By precedent, they've had a lot of duplication. They've now noticed that this only leads to a lot of ships being left unused, which is part of the reason why this whole ship revamp and tiercide is going on. Pretty much all new ships come with a specific purpose these days and offer something that is not already in the game.

You'll also notice that there are distinct differences between those four logis, split along two axes: group vs. solo and shield vs. tank. They also offer a function that no other ship can really match. Carriers come close but are for a completely different scale (not to mention speed) of engagement.

That's why I'm asking what the OP is after, because what's been described so far already exists. He's also suggesting things that have been deliberately locked out of highsec for reasons that seem to be the exact same as why he wants them there. Highsec caps simply won't happen; mass drone boats just for the sake of mass drone boats is just asking for lag, TiDi or no; artificial limitations to how many of anything you can bring are just… horribly non-EVE.

Sure, and I'm sceptical. I don't see the gap that needs filling. I suppose that the much asked-for highsec ship transport could be a role, but that's something drastically different — that's basically an Orca with the mining and corp stuff ripped out for the sake of more ship hold.

I'm not. I'm simply asking what it's for. Why is it needed. What's its purpose.

First off, you stole an idea that has been discussed for months in this other thread Escort Carriers.

Then you gave it the same name and same concept art (without giving any credit to the artist).

Then you totally screwed up the idea.

You sir get the award for being the worst kind of douche on the internet.

Next time, do a search of the forums, if you find your idea already in active discussion, add to that discussion, don't make a new worse idea with the same freaking title.

And haven't I provided a potential answer with the concept I laid out?
A large remote repair boat, a drone boat that doesn't deploy more than what Dominix can instead opting for better control range and boost to their effectiveness (maximum 25%) and somewhat large drone bay for a fair bit of versatility or replenishment instead of "massing drone", and a ship maintenance array in field like what Orca bring to the table for the industrial/mining corps.

I think you missed the part where he felt entitled to post it in GD (it was moved here by an ISD) because the linked thread was "old and dead"


edit -- found it, post 16.

No idea is being stolen, I stated it's already been talked about before, everyone who hasn't been under a ROCK had seen it before. I didn't want to necro a thread, so I made a new one and asked for input. The more threads that pop up about this with more and different people talking about it, the more (i hope) it will get noticed and MAYBE implemented in some way by CCP.



I directly linked it to deviant art, where the artist is clearly displayed. I never once said it was my art. I kept the name and concept the same because...it is the same. I'm showing MY interest in it as well as hoping others show there's and that more people come to the idea, as most people don't go past the first few pages on a forum nor will they necro a thread.



No, I didn't. I gave my thoughts on it and asked for others to provide there's to hopefully concoct a viable and working solution to this potentially AWESOME ship.



And you get the award for the biggest, uninformed, vapid, narrow minded ******* on the internet. Take a bow.



lol@ same title? There was none, I looked. You're a liar. Fly into the sun.

EDIT: If you don't like it, don't read it, don't give it attention and let it die.

So it's shameful to have to answer questions now? Asking what you're after is passive-aggressive? It's only one of the fundamental things that needs to be answered when adding stuff to the game.

Ok. Carriers are pretty darn versatile as it is, so making it even more so will be… let's call it “challenging”

Automated turrets seem a bit antithetical to how EVE in general works, but I suppose that, as a completely different idea, XL-sized FoF-missile launchers could be a really fun idea (but they'd have to make FoFs work for that first).

Expanding on carrier warfare is good and well, but I still get the impression that the expansion you're envisioning is to allow them in highsec, which simply won't happen. If they're allowed in highsec, they will not be capships. They will be something with a few hundred EHP so they're still well within the reach of a gank. If by expanding it you mean it offers a different engagement profile than cynoing onto the field, turtling around and repping stuff and maybe spit out a drone or ten, then sure… but different how, and how will it differ from, say, a Domi?

…and this is where I feel the idea breaks down. It's just feels like a Dominix++.
An actual ship transport would be something new, since the Orca can only carry so much (but is very versatile in what it can carry).

Largely because they don't have any alternative (and because, in spite of the building blocks used, it's far from a cap ship — it's more of a specialised battleship with a surprising amount of structure HP).

1) I don't frequent F&I and stay on GD, didn't bother looking on here. It's a Forum, I don't feel I need to justify my discussion topic with research to make sure I don't hurt someone's feelings for making a similar post.

2) This is a forum topic. Stop making out like I stole your finest artwork without paying the proper royalties. Get over it.

3) With an attitude like yours, you won't be getting an apology anytime soon. :)

Depends which part of the name you want to focus on…

Escort carrier — strip the Orca of its command bonuses and special cargo holds and triple its ship hangar, making it a ship hauler.

Escort carrier — strip a normal carrier of its jump engine (still not allowed in highsec though), triage mode, large portions of its drone carrying (and fielding) capabilities, and give it the agility of a battleship, making it a short-range defensive ship (can't be hot dropped other than by gating via titand, at which point costs a bajillion in fuel, and can't follow as easily as a logi) that protects subcap ships against other supcap ships but dies horribly if anything remotely cap-sized appears on the field.

I wouldn't mind seeing a ship that specializes in drones and remote ECCM, remote Sensor Boosting, Tracking Links, and other non-repping logistics. As far as I am aware, there really isn't any ship that bonuses these thing. If the drone bonus isn't to damage but ECM strength, Web Strength, repping, and other utility and ewar drones then you have yourself another category that currently doesn't have an exemplar.

I'd slot it as a Tech 2 or pirate faction battlehip. Yeah, it has much lower damage than existing Drone Battleships, but damage isn't the point. The logistic part of the Carrier is covered by the existing logsitics cruiser. The drone element of the carrier is a natural progression from the Dominix or Rattlesnake. So there really isn't an easy way to shoehorn in a mini-carrier.

Still there is a shortage of support ships in that class.

I like this ... though, shouldn't look like anything we currently have -- similar is OK, but exactly the same, no.