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Lutin Ballista
Ballista Investment Corp
#21 - 2012-08-17 07:42:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Lutin Ballista
Aurelius Valentius wrote:
yes I know you can queue them - I did - it seems a bit of a wait of 8 days just to get 10 copies of mining crystals to use in invention... *sigh*

It would be nice if they simply added even 10 more say 20 per station - a little easing of the time for BPCs would help... since BPOs are for sale - we should be able to use them...

I am in a very desolate part of HS, and three stations here with S&I, so it's not like it's an issue, the rest of the slots are pretty easy to accesss or free all the time... but copy seems to be under-represented.


If you do some calculations you might find that waiting 8 days for a copy slot still provides enough bpc to invent from. I use an alt for copying and one for inventing.

Aurelius Valentius wrote:

not everyone wants to setup a corp just to setup a POS just to make a few copies of T1 BPOs.... no more than you want to setup a corp in real life, build a nuclear power plant and run the lines just to run your computer for a word document.


I do like that analogy. People seem to think that everyone has the ability to live in this place. CCP needs to make the game playable for everyone (my £ is as good as your £ per month right?) - That said, I don't agree with the op re shortage of copy slots, it just seems to me that the op is being a bit lazy.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#22 - 2012-08-17 08:59:38 UTC
There are far too many NPC research slots, and the NPCs do not charge anywhere near enough for them.

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Yvonne Paaltomo
Chanuur
The Initiative.
#23 - 2012-08-17 09:07:22 UTC
Aurelius Valentius wrote:
sorry, not everyone wants to setup a corp just to setup a POS just to make a few copies of T1 BPOs.... no more than you want to setup a corp in real life, build a nuclear power plant and run the lines just to run your computer for a word document.

Nope, Instead you pay others to do it for you as you can't do it efficiently or cost effective. If you don't think it's worth the effort, use a copy service as people pointed out. Or scale up and make it worth building the power plant and deliver energy to others.
Lyndsey Love
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-08-17 10:45:58 UTC
set up a pos. everyone done this.
or buy bpc from contracts.
when i first went to industry, i bought bpc-s from contracts, invented in station (there are usually free invention slots) and manufacured them (there are usually free manufacturing slots).
a small pos is also not hard to maintain, and you can unanchor anytime.
thats all.
nobody can help you much more i think.
Jason Xado
Doomheim
#25 - 2012-08-17 11:39:02 UTC
Jason Xado wrote:
In my humble opinion, the best solution to this problem would be to remove NPC stations altogether.

All content should be player created.


And just to clarify, I mean remove it and replace it with tools that allow player driven content. We should have PC stations instead of NPC stations.
Vauss Dutan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-08-18 17:00:34 UTC
JonnyRandom wrote:
You can... queue up... for slots?
Are
you
freaking
kidding
me??
Why isn't this informed ANYWHERE on the UI or even suggested through design that this is possible?


That and the 912,126,213,345,456,345,000 other things about this game that aren't documented. I'll never not feel like an Eve noob :-)

I'm just now learning the industry/manufacturing part of the game and i've been studying for about 2 weeks now and I'm still not sure I know wth to do.

A part of me does like how this stuff isn't just spoon fed to you. It adds the joy of discovery to the game. Reward for time invested and bigger separation between the skilled and unskilled.
Korsiri
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2012-08-18 17:08:51 UTC
Vauss Dutan wrote:
JonnyRandom wrote:
You can... queue up... for slots?
Are
you
freaking
kidding
me??
Why isn't this informed ANYWHERE on the UI or even suggested through design that this is possible?


That and the 912,126,213,345,456,345,000 other things about this game that aren't documented. I'll never not feel like an Eve noob :-)

I'm just now learning the industry/manufacturing part of the game and i've been studying for about 2 weeks now and I'm still not sure I know wth to do.

A part of me does like how this stuff isn't just spoon fed to you. It adds the joy of discovery to the game. Reward for time invested and bigger separation between the skilled and unskilled.


Been doing it for a couple years :P And I still learn stuff. Course I'm not doing it full time either which makes a difference.

I love the complexity in this game!

Also, seconded the use of lowsec. Gotta have a draw for it somehow anyway right? ;)

And at OP: yeah um frankly while I personally think the system sucks for my own selfish use :P it's very much a part of the competition and shouldn't be changed. When you run into a wall in Eve, the smart thing is to start looking for ways to tunnel under it not demolish it :P ok bad analogy but you get the idea - as others say there are a lot of alternatives. NPC stuff is designed to be crappy so's to get people off their ass and do their own thing, or god forbid interact with other players, so's to facilitate what they want to do.

I would totally agree with the PC station idea but then that's what people in Null do essentially it'd be interesting to see that system in place throughout the Eve universe. Not sure how you'd do that without just getting rid of highsec as some want very much to do. But anyway, just sayin, in general, I'd support the idea depending on implementation (not that this is suggestion forum of course).
Corvus Borealis
AUS-BadBadNotGood
#28 - 2012-08-19 19:44:25 UTC
Alyssa SaintCroix wrote:
If it's only a few copies then you don't need a POS and you can wait the queue time for one to become available in high sec. If you're extremely antsy then use the services provided by other players.

Problem is that you have to join their corporation.

We should have tools for RENTING slots, without joining the actual corporation.
Corvus Borealis
AUS-BadBadNotGood
#29 - 2012-08-19 19:45:16 UTC
Korsiri wrote:

I love the poor design in this game!

Fixed for you!
Linda Shadowborn
Dark Steel Industries
#30 - 2012-08-19 22:39:19 UTC
Corvus Borealis wrote:
Alyssa SaintCroix wrote:
If it's only a few copies then you don't need a POS and you can wait the queue time for one to become available in high sec. If you're extremely antsy then use the services provided by other players.

Problem is that you have to join their corporation.

We should have tools for RENTING slots, without joining the actual corporation.


or just buy copies. you know... talk to a research corp.. tell em you want to buy so and so copies..
Ginger Barbarella
#31 - 2012-08-20 15:19:30 UTC
Corvus Borealis wrote:
Alyssa SaintCroix wrote:
If it's only a few copies then you don't need a POS and you can wait the queue time for one to become available in high sec. If you're extremely antsy then use the services provided by other players.

Problem is that you have to join their corporation.

We should have tools for RENTING slots, without joining the actual corporation.


Wow, this post has all kinds of fail written all over it.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Alyssa SaintCroix
Leihkasse Stammheim
#32 - 2012-08-20 16:52:10 UTC
Corvus Borealis wrote:
Alyssa SaintCroix wrote:
If it's only a few copies then you don't need a POS and you can wait the queue time for one to become available in high sec. If you're extremely antsy then use the services provided by other players.

Problem is that you have to join their corporation.

We should have tools for RENTING slots, without joining the actual corporation.


You don't have to join anything. Any decent service provider will offer a collateral service for BPOs.
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