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Vladimier Vorku Doomheim Likes received: 1	#1 - 2012-08-15 16:39:18 UTC Wondering if there is a good Cormorant PVP DPS fitting. now i know alot of people will say a Cormorant Isnt a good PVP ship blah blah blah. Ive seen PVP Corms any suggestions? i want it to have good DPS with at least good shielding mainly for fihting in low-null

Mutant Caldari

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#2 - 2012-08-15 17:44:33 UTC

Vladimier Vorku wrote:

Wondering if there is a good Cormorant PVP DPS fitting. now i know alot of people will say a Cormorant Isnt a good PVP ship blah blah blah. Ive seen PVP Corms any suggestions? i want it to have good DPS with at least good shielding mainly for fihting in low-null

[Cormorant, MASB]
Damage Control II

Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 50
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Light Electron Blaster II, Void S
Light Electron Blaster II, Void S
Light Electron Blaster II, Void S
Light Electron Blaster II, Void S
Light Electron Blaster II, Void S
Light Electron Blaster II, Void S
Light Electron Blaster II, Void S
Small Nosferatu II

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

261 DPS with Void(300 overheated), 186 with Null along with 4.7km + 2.6km range(214 DPS overheated), 195 DPS tank with your ASB overheated(213 with ASB + Invuln overheated), has neut protection and....yeah.

Or if you want a web
[Cormorant, MASB]
Damage Control II

Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 50
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Stasis Webifier II

Light Electron Blaster II, Null S
Light Electron Blaster II, Null S
Light Electron Blaster II, Null S
Light Electron Blaster II, Null S
Light Electron Blaster II, Null S
Light Electron Blaster II, Null S
Light Electron Blaster II, Null S
Small Nosferatu II

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

Same DPS stats, 144 DPS tank overheated though.

It really doesn't get much better with Neutrons though and you sacrifice all of your tank.

Vladimier Vorku

Doomheim

Likes received: 1

#3 - 2012-08-15 17:48:06 UTC

Mutant Caldari wrote:

Vladimier Vorku wrote:

hmmm now with blasters range i have to be extreamly close yes? both fits seem very good if you had to chose which would it be

Battle BV Redux 301
Belthazor4011 Battle BV Redux Likes received: 301	#4 - 2012-08-15 19:26:14 UTC Its made for sniping, its actually even good at that. If you want Blasters its pointless to pick it over the Cata.

Traejun DiSanctis

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Likes received: 153

#5 - 2012-08-15 20:34:04 UTC | Edited by: Traejun DiSanctis

Belthazor4011 wrote:

Its made for sniping, its actually even good at that. If you want Blasters its pointless to pick it over the Cata.

This. Get a Catalyst if you want a blaster boat. Cormorants do rails... or act as cheap salvage birds. See fit below as basically the "right" solo pvp fit for a cormie.

[Cormorant, Rail Kite]

125mm Railgun II, Antimatter and/or Tungsten
125mm Railgun II, Antimatter and/or Tungsten
125mm Railgun II, Antimatter and/or Tungsten
125mm Railgun II, Antimatter and/or Tungsten
125mm Railgun II, Antimatter and/or Tungsten
125mm Railgun II, Antimatter and/or Tungsten
125mm Railgun II, Antimatter and/or Tungsten
Small Nosferatu II

Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 50
Faint Warp Disruptor I
Stasis Webifier II

Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

Alticus C Bear

University of Caille

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 202

#6 - 2012-08-15 21:24:19 UTC

This is why the Corm should have four mids (go visit the features and Ideas sticky for destroyers to give feedback on the changes)

Engage at 7-8km and you should be able to control range on most other destroyers, this beats an AC Shield Thrasher.

6,344ehp

236dps at 10km (278dps overheated)

Can swap to spike for 36km optimal to fend off kiters and perfect for FW minor complexes.

Can swap extender for MASB.

[Cormorant, Shield Rails]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Stasis Webifier II
Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Medium Shield Extender II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I

Traejun DiSanctis

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Likes received: 153

#7 - 2012-08-16 04:03:09 UTC

Alticus C Bear wrote:

[Cormorant, Shield Rails]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Stasis Webifier II
Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Medium Shield Extender II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I

75mm? Check. Short range point? Check. Mixed weapon systems? Check.

Yup... looking good.


Vladimier Vorku Doomheim Likes received: 1	#8 - 2012-08-16 04:24:20 UTC so rails are the way to go then eh?i dont get why everyone dogs the corm it isnt the most amazing ship ever but its decent least in my opinion im thinking of usuing the 125mm fit and the 75mm gatling fit see which gives me better esults

Traejun DiSanctis

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Likes received: 153

#9 - 2012-08-16 04:31:53 UTC

Vladimier Vorku wrote:

so rails are the way to go then eh?i dont get why everyone dogs the corm it isnt the most amazing ship ever but its decent least in my opinion im thinking of usuing the 125mm fit and the 75mm gatling fit see which gives me better esults

Yes, rails. If you want to use Blasters, get a Catalyst. As for which rails to get, save yourself the trouble - 125mm is the correct choice.

Ten Thousand Days 641
Maeltstome Ten Thousand Days Likes received: 641	#10 - 2012-08-16 11:35:11 UTC http://rvbeve.com/blue/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=234256 10km with antimatter, 45+ with spike. Pretty much the ultimate all-round-destroyer fit. It's only about 180ish dps... but its always fighting in optimal.

Michael Harari

Genos Occidere

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#11 - 2012-08-16 14:28:14 UTC

Magnetic Field Stabilizer II (or DCU)

meta 4 web
1mn ab
MASB
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Energy Neut
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Hybrid burst rig, anti-em rig, anti -thermal rig (or a locus if you have bad skiils)

Kite at the edge of scram/web range

Black Eagle1 2,982
X Gallentius Black Eagle1 Likes received: 2,982	#12 - 2012-08-16 14:52:28 UTC 1 Vladimier Vorku wrote: so rails are the way to go then eh?i dont get why everyone dogs the corm it isnt the most amazing ship ever but its decent least in my opinion im thinking of usuing the 125mm fit and the 75mm gatling fit see which gives me better esults 75mm rails + Destroyer = Love.

Traejun DiSanctis

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Likes received: 153

#13 - 2012-08-16 17:15:05 UTC

Michael Harari wrote:

This makes me cry.

Michael Harari

Genos Occidere

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#14 - 2012-08-16 20:22:23 UTC | Edited by: Michael Harari

Traejun DiSanctis wrote:

Michael Harari wrote:

This makes me cry.

http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13715790
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13714946
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13654355
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13653851
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13645945

All with destroyers 3 and rail spec 1 btw.

Yes, some are shitfit. But this fit has excellent range control, tank, projection (it can hit slicers with longer range ammo like tungsten).

I would link your mails too, but you are too afraid to post with your main

Traejun DiSanctis

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#15 - 2012-08-17 03:11:15 UTC

Michael Harari wrote:

Traejun DiSanctis wrote:

Michael Harari wrote:

This makes me cry.

lol don't get mad. I just think 75's are a bad idea where you have proper skills (like Destroyers IV or better) and can afford to fit right. Here's what's wrong with the above fit:

1. Fit 125mm rails...
2. Warp scram on a kiting/range-control dessie? Really? Long point please.
3. AB? Why? Go MWD or go home.
4. Fit a Meta 4 disruptor, but T2 Web (not the other way around).

As for your killmails... very impressive... kind of. Truth is, pretty much any fit that isn't ******** can kill stuff. Your fit isn't ********, it's just not quite right. No need to get mad. Here's something to remember in EvE...

Reasonable minds can differ on any issue.

Michael Harari

Genos Occidere

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#16 - 2012-08-17 04:18:29 UTC

long point mwd is a completely different fit that depends on staying outside of scram range. With the proliferation of links (and just plain faster ships, like any mwd frig and most afs), this is a very dicey thing to try in something as slow as a cormorant. It works with a slicer because a slicer is one of the fastest ships in the game. Cormorants are not.

Also, because of my low destroyer skill, I had to either go up 1 range level in ammo (like plutonium instead of antimatter), or use frentix.

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