EVE General Discussion

The new UI meant a hell of a lot more clicking and more redundant windows cluttering the screen for me (simply because the whole “unified” bit means they are all redundant by definition, whereas they each had a specific purpose in the old UI) simply because it tries to serialise everything rather than let stuff run in parallel. Previously, I didn't have to keep opening hangars all the time because they were already open and immediately available in exactly the spot and size that was right for them.

The old UI was also less cluttered since you could just create a couple of stacks in pre-defined positions and have them be very very small. With the new UI, the general design-element bloat means that those windows have to be much bigger to provide the same information, and on top of that, there's the tree view to steal even more space from what you actually want to see whenever you have to use it.

The old system had tabs, which were functionally equivalent and too up less screen real-estate to boot.

While things certainly have improved since launch, and while it's now possible to very closely make the uninventory behave like the old UI, is still shock-full of outright baffling design decisions in terms of redundant, inconsistent, unnecessary, bloated, misapplied, and outdated elements. This kind of UI was modern in 1986 — these days, there are far better [whatever]-managers to duplicate than DOSSHELL.

The only really good improvement that has come out of it is the filtering ability, which is a nice extension from the limited meta/tech/type/group sorting we had before… but even the filters are clumsily integrated and require far more clicking and folding and scrolling to use than should be necessary.

They are currently working on adding back the shortcuts on the neocom to ships hangar and to items hangar, when they are back, the new inventory will have the same functionality (basicly) as the old one... until then, someone told me about a temporary fix you can do yourself

in options under the ESC menu, there is an option under the general settings, Merge ship and items hangar.... in the window to the right when your docked next to the guest list and agents, you will also have the hangars, it's very useful to have these here, but it has some limitations... temp fix is good though




Windows 8?... more like windows 95, (windows 8 is looks more clumsy and less organized though, but its more responsive... new inventory is not that good yet)

You know, our different opinions are probably mostly just results of different use cases. I live in a POS, where the hangars were not open when returning to them, and accessing them meant either switching to an overview tab, or clicking the arrays in space. Useful stuff like tabs couldn't be used, because you can't use containers in Corp Hangar Arrays like you can in stations.

New UI makes all the hangars within reach range automatically accessible in compact tree form without a single click, and even allows you to interact (e.g. approach, manage the tower) with arrays outside reach range.

I do have to admit that if the current POS wasn't literally such a sad pos, the improvements UI brought might not feel so awesome to me. But as it is, UI makes my daily life and mundane tasks dramatically smoother.

^^ This. It really needs to remember ALL possible states. I mean, if normal game mechanics allow a particular set up, the game should save it just the way I configured it. But it still does not.

It is still terribad slow when handling large numbers of items, like when I save up salvage until I get a Storyline Mission.

Which brings up the salvaging workflow - it's still very SLOW. I think the mechanics are okay due to "always use new window" option, but it simply performs like a lazy dog with the circling swoosh thingy taking it's time....

Also, the market data is almost always COMPLETELY wrong. I think when that function shows some degree of accuracy, it must be a coincidence... The market data should be a switch that can be turned off.

Ok, fair enough. I don't use containers that much to begin with other than to stow away things for a rainy day — it's it's for reasonably immediate use, I just leave it in a pile in a hangar. Sorting and visual filtering (and, as mentioned, the new filters which are indeed a great addition) solved the rest for me.

…but I still feel POSes are worse than before just because you've lost that singular coherent corp hangar, so it's no longer really possible to open a specific POS array — you only ever open hangar divisions.

Yes, I see your point about them “auto-opening” in the sense of being populated in the tree view, but since you still have to select them and expand or contract them or scroll around, I don't feel there's any clicks saved from just opening in the overview. Part of that may be that I never have a window open with the tree view visible because it just takes too much space that I want for other things. I feel it's a hugely inefficient way of presenting the stuff that's available to me, so every time I have to go to the tree view it means extra work.

Shift-opening them and leaving them open should help you with that if your client is well-behaved enough not to forget its window settings… which, admittedly, isn't something you can entirely rely on.

I really like the new system :shrug:

+10

Should I add how good the new Unified Inventory is for lag fest in whatever situation but when you're in fleets this only gets worst.

I think they are hoping with time that ppl will stop complaining and will just go away, Guess not...



Tal

The biggest issue I've run into is the lagginess that's been created, and it's definitely a legitimate concern. Things do load more slowly.

Another legitimate one is the perpetual forgetfulness of the window when it comes to hiding the tree view and window placement, especially after docking/undocking and jumping systems. I've run into this issue myself.

Yet another true issue has to do with looting in space. It was much simpler when a new window popped up, and you just had to click 'loot all', and it disappeared. Now the window still sticks around, and just reverts to the cargohold.

However, pretty much any other complaint seems to be coming from people who are married to their old, clunky workarounds, and haven't worked out how, with the new system, those aren't really needed.

Don't even go there they where told in testing how bad it was, but no they said , its not that bad, you will get used to it bla bla bla, completely ignoring the overwhelmingly negative feedback.


Sigh

So much for Hillmars listening to the player base letter, nice one it was their PR/marketing team must have spent about half an hour writing that drivel.

Tal