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Suicide ganking DUST bunnies from orbit.
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Ginger Barbarella
#21 - 2012-08-15 18:00:57 UTC
Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:
Griefing console players will be the quickest way to kill Dust. Horrible idea imo.


But allow DUSTers to gank/grief EveO players? Yeah, that's got WIN written all over it.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Syler Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
#22 - 2012-08-15 18:03:48 UTC
Arkturus McFadden wrote:
Could you imagine suicide ganking Dusties from orbit in a Moros?!


You'd end the match before it even began! Big smile I'd personally love to see that happen.

Null sec should have suicide ganking orbital bombardments.


If you are using a Moros it wouldn't be "suicide" ganking. just ganking.

All this sounds like "HEY GUYZ THIS WOULD BE SOOO COOLs" but would fail horribly in actual practice. This goes for both the orbital bombardment as well as the griefing behind orbital. Since even if you did grief Dust, 99% of the time you won't hear the rage.
Whadafool
State War Academy
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-08-15 19:12:04 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:
I was thinking about this ... we know that at launch DUST will only have an impact on high and low-sec planets. Also, and in all honesty, i'm not sure if planetary bombardment will come to the game before null-sec combat. But let's just assume that it does.

Is there any information on how exactly planetary bombardment will work on EVE side?! Will any and all pilots be free to unleash hell on DUST bunnies without any sort of pre-requisites?


When i read Ytterbium post about planetary bombardment destroyers, the idea of suicide ganking planets immediatly came to mind. Obviously we don't know how the mechanics will play out, but if its possible for dest pilots to freely bombard DUST bunnies then this will be hilarious.

And this is why i play Eve. As soon as anything is announced of importance the immediate thought of most of the player base is 'how can i kill it' Lol

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No More Heroes
Boomer Humor
Snuffed Out
#24 - 2012-08-15 19:14:22 UTC
Does anyone know what precisely the level of interaction between DUST and Eve will be? I don't want to chat with them, I don't want to buy, sell or trade with them. I don't want to share resources with them..

I want to shoot them.

In the face.

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Garreth Vlox
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-08-15 20:08:21 UTC
Cadfael Maelgwyn wrote:
If you thought carebears were bad about raging after being ganked, it's nothing compared to the rage that would spew forth from the mouths of the average console gamer after it happened about two times.


Which is a very good reason to do it.

The LULZ Boat.
Hehaw Jimbojohnson
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#26 - 2012-08-15 20:14:21 UTC
No More Heroes wrote:
Does anyone know what precisely the level of interaction between DUST and Eve will be? I don't want to chat with them, I don't want to buy, sell or trade with them. I don't want to share resources with them..

I want to shoot them.

In the face.


AFAIK CCP has been very quiet and made a point not to detail the specifics yet. This means they probably don't know/haven't worked out exactly how everything is going to mesh yet.

As far as I know, they still want to get the game out this year...so yeah, I think everyone should be worried how badly these two games could hurt each other.
Garreth Vlox
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2012-08-15 20:29:27 UTC
Hehaw Jimbojohnson wrote:
No More Heroes wrote:
Does anyone know what precisely the level of interaction between DUST and Eve will be? I don't want to chat with them, I don't want to buy, sell or trade with them. I don't want to share resources with them..

I want to shoot them.

In the face.


AFAIK CCP has been very quiet and made a point not to detail the specifics yet. This means they probably don't know/haven't worked out exactly how everything is going to mesh yet.

As far as I know, they still want to get the game out this year...so yeah, I think everyone should be worried how badly these two games could hurt each other.

If it gets bad we just gank the console till they quit problem solved

The LULZ Boat.
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#28 - 2012-08-18 11:56:44 UTC
No More Heroes wrote:
Does anyone know what precisely the level of interaction between DUST and Eve will be? I don't want to chat with them, I don't want to buy, sell or trade with them. I don't want to share resources with them..

I want to shoot them.

In the face.


That will probably take some skill at level V to do. I'll be just as happy to shoot the general area where they're fighting with inferno cruise missiles from my phoenix and watch the whole place burn.


I mean, we will be able to watch it right?! Hope so ...

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#29 - 2012-08-18 14:00:55 UTC
Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:
Renan Ruivo wrote:
I was thinking about this ... we know that at launch DUST will only have an impact on high and low-sec planets. Also, and in all honesty, i'm not sure if planetary bombardment will come to the game before null-sec combat. But let's just assume that it does.

Is there any information on how exactly planetary bombardment will work on EVE side?! Will any and all pilots be free to unleash hell on DUST bunnies without any sort of pre-requisites?


When i read Ytterbium post about planetary bombardment destroyers, the idea of suicide ganking planets immediatly came to mind. Obviously we don't know how the mechanics will play out, but if its possible for dest pilots to freely bombard DUST bunnies then this will be hilarious.


Griefing console players will be the quickest way to kill Dust. Horrible idea imo.


I bet you it becomes bannable, IE ganking in starter systems

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Admiralte Derezel
Interstellar Operations Conglomerate
#30 - 2012-08-18 14:27:10 UTC
But if people playing Dust end up shooting back then you all will cry that you can't gank them risk free anymore. Another issue is that on consoles we can just choose another server and continue to have fun while you sit in orbit eating 'cheetos' waiting to cause 'tears'.


Roll out PC master race!
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#31 - 2012-08-18 14:56:49 UTC
No More Heroes wrote:
Does anyone know what precisely the level of interaction between DUST and Eve will be? I don't want to chat with them, I don't want to buy, sell or trade with them. I don't want to share resources with them..

I want to shoot them.

In the face.



From what was in the CSM minutes, it looks like having dust bunnies controlling planets will give sov bonuses (assuming that they're in your Alliance)


So you don't need them. They just make you better.

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
Marcus Harikari
#32 - 2012-08-18 15:09:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Marcus Harikari
Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:

Griefing console players will be the quickest way to popularize Dust. Great idea imo.

FTFY
Lili Lu
#33 - 2012-08-18 15:15:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Lili Lu
Beware what you wish for.

In the future there could be troop transports sawing into your hull and spewing dust bunnies into it, coming to your pod hold, and doing unmentionable things to your current clone Pirate
Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2012-08-18 15:17:37 UTC
I want to bombard Caldari Prime.

The rage would be awesome.

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#35 - 2012-08-18 15:24:57 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:
I was thinking about this ... we know that at launch DUST will only have an impact on high and low-sec planets
Really? Last I heard they were only going to do the exact opposite of that. Do you have a link to more recent statement?

No More Heroes wrote:
Does anyone know what precisely the level of interaction between DUST and Eve will be?
No.
Zenos Ebeth
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2012-08-18 15:26:43 UTC
It's already been mentioned before but there has been 2 videos in which you saw some sort of structure on the ground that fired a laser toward the sky. So i think that bombarding dust players won't be risk free at all. (In one of the video it even one shots a moros , but i doubt it would be that powerful in the game).

Bad posts are not welcome on these forums.  -CCP Falcon
Gorinia Sanford
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2012-08-18 16:41:13 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:
I was thinking about this ... we know that at launch DUST will only have an impact on high and low-sec planets. Also, and in all honesty, i'm not sure if planetary bombardment will come to the game before null-sec combat. But let's just assume that it does.

Is there any information on how exactly planetary bombardment will work on EVE side?! Will any and all pilots be free to unleash hell on DUST bunnies without any sort of pre-requisites?


When i read Ytterbium post about planetary bombardment destroyers, the idea of suicide ganking planets immediatly came to mind. Obviously we don't know how the mechanics will play out, but if its possible for dest pilots to freely bombard DUST bunnies then this will be hilarious.


Problem is, the way I understand how the planetary bombardment would is some one on the ground would have to give you a code, which you enter and you then bombard their target. Or something like that. That pretty eliminates the ability for you to just roll up on a planet and unleash hell's fury.

Besides, griefers are d-bags and deserve to be b-slapped all over the place.
Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2012-08-18 16:51:14 UTC
I was thinking of the PI attack:
You must realize that the microorganisms out number the actual cells in the human body - this is a known fact. So, I set up my extractors for microorganisms, and plonk it down on top of a nest of Dust bunnies, thus squishing them, and simultaneously harvesting microorganisms, proteins, water, snippets and snails and puppy dog tails, and all that stuff humans are made of.
Ginger Barbarella
#39 - 2012-08-18 18:05:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Ginger Barbarella
Once again, if DUST players have the capability to affect my EveO online world, we should be able to gank/attack/nuke the transports that bring DUST players to planets (wanna bet that they're "suddenly" on-planet in DUST?). Period. If that doesn't happen, CCP will have introduced YET ANOTHER unbalanced game into the world.

This one factor would force me to have all my toons in all my accounts join the biggest corps/alliances I can find SOLELY for the purpose of attacking said transports of DUST players.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#40 - 2012-08-18 18:24:38 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:
I was thinking about this ... we know that at launch DUST will only have an impact on high and low-sec planets. Also, and in all honesty, i'm not sure if planetary bombardment will come to the game before null-sec combat. But let's just assume that it does.


Well, if you consider the console universe gaming experience as something with a learning curve rather different from eve then we have to also assume this wouldn't be possible in high sec, possible in low-sec with high level restrictions and drawbacks to be a free to shoot in null sec.

Imho this is what it looks like the "usual" difficulty risk/reward progression, but like you I'm just assuming.

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Is there any information on how exactly planetary bombardment will work on EVE side?! Will any and all pilots be free to unleash hell on DUST bunnies without any sort of pre-requisites?


ATM looks like some mod you have to fix on to your ship (so no dedicated ship but probably skill to unlock it) and seems you're unable to do whatever else while this mod is activated, leaving you completely unable to do whatever if someone else decides to gank you.

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When i read Ytterbium post about planetary bombardment destroyers, the idea of suicide ganking planets immediatly came to mind. Obviously we don't know how the mechanics will play out, but if its possible for dest pilots to freely bombard DUST bunnies then this will be hilarious.


Console players and market behind is completely different from Eve. The concept or two different games interacting in the same universe doesn't mean same laziness in terms of game mechanics like ganking, scaming, fake SS where -10 pirates can come and go in high sec etc, at least I hope so, Dust success will probably depend a lot of this or it will just be another game for "special" snowflake nerds like Eve.

brb