Intergalactic Summit

I thought it was generally accepted that the Gallente Federation is the most morally bankrupt nation in New Eden. And I don't mean immoral, but amoral. There is little to no moral codes among the Gallente other than if you enjoy it and you can get away with it, it is fine.

You haven't actually addressed any of the points, you've simply insisted that what you've said is true without backing it up in any way, shape or form whatsoever.

I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you over the screams of the billions of people on Mishi IV and Starkmanir Prime you murdered simply for being in the way. Besides, Eturer was a traitor and a murderer - you killed Karsoth for the simple crime of believing something you didn't.



Neither of these is true. You have a "moral code" that you serruptitiously change when it suits you and ignore outright where it cannot be quickly and covertly changed. What parts of your code are not open to outright modification or violation are objectively immoral.



Minimalism and simplicity are not bad things. Brevity is the soul of wit. We have no need of vast and arcane strictures to tell us every little thing that's wrong or right. Common sense usually dictates these things. When it hurts no-one else, self-interest and hedonism are perfectly acceptable.



Respect implies that its recipient has done something worthy of consideration and personal regard. It implies that they have performed actions which deserve acclaim and deference.

I respect the Federation for its commitment to treating all citizens equally, and the fact that is, to this day, the only nation in which the citizenry truly have a say in who rules them.

I respect the Republic for its loyalty to its own kin, and for having built something truly spectacular in only a century after the Amarrians did their level best to ruthlessly erase their cultural distinctiveness and slay their ethnic identity (and in one case, succeeded).

I respect the State for its nigh-flawless execution of hypercapitalism. I'm not saying I neccessarily agree with the way they run their society, but they tried to make a civilization in which everything is run by corporations and everything has a price - and they managed it. Not without hiccups, mind you, but they managed it.

I even respect the Guristas, for being honest about their intentions. Whereas the Serpentis, the Angel Cartel and even Sansha's Nation attempt to cloak their actions in some kind of legitimacy, the Guristas simply proudly step forward and say "yeah, we're douchebags. What are you going to do about it?". That takes a fair amount of self-honesty to do, and while I certainly don't respect their intentions, I do respect their ability to be open about them.

What have the Amarrians done - ever - that deserves a shred of my respect?

Sorry. Wrong answer. Null points, as they say.

No example you can give would ever be publicly acknowledged by Andreus. He will say they don't count.

It is the way he is, there is no point in attempting to talk to him, or even acknowledging his existence.

Not anymore anyway.

You confirmed it, with these "standards". Any example given, you will claim does not meet the "standards".

Good Bye.

You said that agreed to the justice taken on Aritcio Kor-Azor's. Sins on slaves, free people, and holders alike that you claim never are addessed in the Empire.

I agreed to the fact that justice was levelled against the corrupt. The method you used to deliver it, however, ruined any chance you had of gaining respect for it. At least we only killed Admiral Eturer and at least we only did it once.



As expected, you fall at the first hurdle - in this case by basing your respect on a fictional entity.



Again, you make incorrect inferences about my behaviour and beliefs because you are ignorant and unintelligent. People begin, in my estimation, as neutral, earning neither respect or disrespect.

Verin "Stitcher" Haktain has earned my respect for being a loyal and tolerant friend with surprisingly deep philosophical insights. He is a noble citizen of the State without prejudice or hatred, who prefers peace and mutual profit to war. He has made great efforts to understand the viewpoints of people who are not traditionally friends of his people, such as the Gallente and the Minmatar.

Sahaquiel Faust has stuck by me through thick and thin, good times and bad, with nearly no complaint. He upholds the core values of Federal democracy as his guiding principles and is a beacon of level-headed logic in my corporation.

I respect Friar Kite for having the courage to turn away from his religious upbringing and embrace a path that has genuinely proved to be more fulfilling for him. Farbeit from my dislike for the Empire being a matter of ethnic distaste - I am proud to have an Amarrian such as him among my ranks.

Ethan Verone has earned my respect for being the most honest pirate I've ever met, a good leader and an exceedingly competent combat pilot. He gives the Guristas an air of dignity and sophistication the Amarr have yet to achieve.

Arkady Sadik has earned my respect for being a talented fleet commander and a man with nearly unending patience - after all, he treats Imperials with a far greater degree of respect than I do, which in my estimation is a lot better than you deserve.

I even respect Rek Jaiga. He seems to be genuinely trying to better himself - or at the very least, he's making a believable, concerted effort to make it look like he is. That counts for a lot more than you'd think with me.

Again, I ask you - what have you done to deserve my respect?

The Cartel has absolutely zero need to 'cloak' its actions, and to the best of my knowledge, is doing so only in your head. We are well aware many of our activities are considered to be illegal in the four major empires. Yes, there's an image of Angels in business suits making deals, as contrasted with Crash-addled Guristas wandering derelict stations in rags, randomly firing pistols into the ceiling. If you're paying attention, it's less about projecting legitimacy per se than it is about professionalism and reliability.

'Course, if you have a deep need to call people you dislike hypocrites simply because they don't act the way you feel they should..

Sounds like someone is both misinformed and suffering from p-p-pirate envy.

Do remember that it's your allies, the Serpentis, that are the drug pushers in the local neighbourhood, and that the Guristas pretty vehemently oppose their operations. A member of Veto once assisted me with sinking a booster smuggling operation in Federal space. They've actually done more for the local community than you did for that Minmatar system you tried (and failed) to govern.

That's really the point here. My dealings with the Guristas and their capsuleer loyalists have always been up-front, honest, professional, amicable and reliable. My dealings with the Angel Cartel and Serpentis... haven't, really?