EVE General Discussion

Quoted for truth.

Changes to sentries, and flag mechanics, will seperate the crap PVPer from the good. The Pro-scanning, "hunting you down and killing you" elite, from the "sitting on a gate blasting everything" noobs, and the "can-flipping and suicide ganking" cowards. All those crappy pvp-wannabies threatening to unsub, please, go ahead. Your selfish flow of easy kills have finally been recognised as something that is harming eve's continued growth and development. Your quest for easy, risk-free kills has made low-sec a wasteland.

Eve is not a game where things are delivered on a silver platter. I aplaud the real PVPers, confident and experienced enough to adapt to these changes, and continue to own all that stand before them. They have already learned how to actually PVP. They recognise the duel benifits on increased low-sec traffic, and are excited to see this wasteland become viable again. They want people in low-sec, they want to see them explode. They aren't crying about the fact that they won't be able to shoot them the moment the step through the door. They're aren't crying that their easy risk-free methods and one-sided fights are about to disappear. They know they're is going to be more targets, and they know how to find them.

The only people crying are the skill-less players that are used to their risk-free ganks, and cowardly camps. If their target didn't just come to them, as usuall, then they wouldn't have a clue what to do. Other than whine and unsub of course.

Same advice given to miners by you and the other resident though men: loot while aligned, make bookmarks, fit a tank.
I am able to do it and I am not even a ganker (I just have fun ninjaing T2 salvage in their face), figures.

It is not a case of "wont" help themselves. It is more like "can't" help themselves. More often than not, the victim has no knowledge or understanding of what is happening to them.

And then you learned that EVE was a harsh place, and that the more you knew about game mechanics, the better.

Oh I totally agree with you there, and EVE should be cruel, and harsh. But that also applies to the "Pirates" that have had it easy for all this time. Why shouldn't Pirates also experience this cruel, and harsh universe?

They have made sure they have hit home how hard and cruel EVE is, with relatively low to zero risk to themselves. This change will make it cruel and harsh to Pirates as well.

I'm astonished at all the crap in this thread about taking the right precautions, reacting (or not reacting) sensibly, corpmates, alliances, RR support etc etc.

The plain fact is that after the mining barge changes there's no need for established miners to use jetcans and the only players doing so will be newbies in mining frigates (old or new) or, at most, mining cruisers.

As already said, the vast majority of those players won't even know what's happening to them, let alone know how to deal with it.

Corpmates? Alliances? Again, the great majority will be too new to know what to look for in a corp, let alone have had the time to find a worthwhile one that suits them and will accept them.

So they'll have neither the knowledge nor the back-up to help them.

The few flippers who use the mechanic in the (somewhat forlorn) hope of getting a decent fight will have to look elsewhere for their PvP.

That will leave the field to just the bullies and cowards who haven't yet grown out of beating up the new younger kids in the schoolyard.

And they will thoroughly deserve to have their arses shot off by anyone who finds them.