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Anatomy of a failfit.
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Danny John-Peter
Blue Canary
Watch This
#21 - 2012-08-17 08:40:34 UTC
Couple of quick things;

Mixing gun sizes is acceptable when balancing fitting requirements.
CPRs with active shield tanks is acceptable on Carriers.
Not having resists is ok, ships like Cynabals/Vagas/Shield Zealots often emphasise buffer over resists (Primarily due to the Cap Issues that an Invul presents)

As for fail fits.

Sensor Boosters are 99% of the time, wasted slots

99% of ships need MWDs

Slow ships need hard tackle, fast ships can choose to fit Disruptors if they feel they want to use range.

Brick tanked HML Drakes

Canes without 2 Medium Neuts

Using ****** utility highs for unbonused weapons (Say it again, Energy Neutralizers)

Cap Stable PVP fits

Non cap-boosted active tanks (PVP)

etcetcetcetce
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#22 - 2012-08-17 12:01:44 UTC
Someone posted a Domi fit here once which used seven (7) slots for capacitor stability.

Also, my first Vexor lossmail. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8463326

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Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#23 - 2012-08-17 13:37:28 UTC
A ships strengths are limited to the '% per level' bonuses - so properly look at all the stats.

Autocannons on a ship with laser bonuses? You;d be surprised how well it works because of the other stats...
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Horse Feathers
CAStabouts
#24 - 2012-08-17 14:26:41 UTC
Danny John-Peter wrote:
Mixing gun sizes is acceptable when balancing fitting requirements.

Should clarify, this is ok with weapons like small/medium blasters and autocannons, where there isn't a hugely massive difference in range between tiers, so the smaller weapon may be in falloff a bit but it's still doing damage. Mixing tiers on long range weapons like railguns or beam lasers doesn't always work so well.

thhief ghabmoef
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#25 - 2012-08-17 14:47:56 UTC
fail fits for me mean:

A fitting that seems not to optimize any role and or attempt multiple roles badly, though use of modules that do not compliment each other, disregard stacking penalties or simply over spends for a fit that can be a lot cheaper for as or better use.

Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.
Hrett
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2012-08-17 16:06:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Hrett
This thread I started earlier is full of them.

An easy way to avoid "failfits" is to either get in a corp and read their fitting sections, or go to failheap challenge and read their fitting section, or go to good pvpers killboards and read their loss mails. This will give you an "eye" for what is good and bad.

There are many ways to define a failfit, but eventually you will get enough experience that you will just "know one when you see it."

Anyway - be careful about falling into the "cookie cutter" mold too, which is the other extreme. Just because there are some "standard" ways to fit ships, doesnt mean it is the only way to fit ships. As long as you have some well-defined purpose for your fitting, half of the fun of eve is experimenting with ships and tactics.

spaceship, Spaceship, SPACESHIP!
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