Player Features and Ideas Discussion

So in general, CCP isn't interested in specific design proposals like this. They have game designers, and those folks want to prove that they are worth the RL ISK that CCP is paying them. If you have specific wants from the new POS system, those are far more useful to CCP.

Yes, this is the Idea, I know that the Devs have the final word and know the best path to make things happen, and they will fallow their own proposals. I trowed this possible design, with the intention of it being used as a brainstorm for ideas regarding the development. I would be really glad if just a single line of this have a good use.

Thank you for reading it! I really appreciate!

With the Ideas Alx Warlord has suggested I think they are an excellent start,

I have discussed this topic with a few others over the last few weeks and the following ideas could improve Starbases even further. A lot of this is based on many years of experience with the old Starbase System, and how frustrating it can be, other ideas are just it would be cool if they it could do that.

Access:

It would be helpful if the Starbases could also be better configured for Alliance use. But there are many other options that could be applied, such as Public Access if you want to use it as a sales office or provide services like refineries in systems that have none, or rent out factories and labs to non corporation or alliance members.

It would also be a useful feature to Buy, Sell or Rent towers, having that feature would make new market for Pilots or Corporations that taken the time to grind Faction Standings to deploy these structures, and maybe benifit, from it by being able to Sell or rent towers to individuals, Corps or Alliances. Terms of contracts could include a specified amount of ISK per month to providing the POS fuel and ISK.

UI:

The UI for towers needs a huge upgrade along with the structures, it would be helpful to remote view information on the structures status and see what is happening out at any tower being used by the corporation wherever it might be. Fuel levels being the main thing, the Calendar updates are good but tend not to be very reliable way of checking, more information in game would be helpful.

Structures:

Maybe rather than having a large number of different arrays, maybe have a configurable structure, that maybe hides what is being run on the structure so you have to scan a tower to know what is going on there. For example you want to add a Lab to a structure, you might start by adding a Large Configurable Structure once that is added it could give you 3 slots to use and you place a Lab Module into it and then activate the Lab to use it. Different facilities/modules, might have different requrements for fitting.

Defence and Weapons Grids:

First part of this will be to use the same weapons we currently use on ships, this will give a wider range of defence options to towers, and allow for better adaptation to where the tower is located.

Weapons Grids would be set up in groups of 8 to 10 weapons, not necessary of the same type. Once grouped pilots with Starbase Defence Management skills could take control of up to 5 groups (numbers here are arbitrary and just how it could work). Weapons Grids could also have slots for ECM , Webs and Warp Scramblers etc..

Drone Control, it might be interesting to have a small number drones available to either defend the tower, or just as remote rep the Starbase or friendly ships, or even use the new salvage drones to collect the wrecks of anyone who thinks it was a good idea to shoot the tower.

Starbase Shield, Armor and Hull booster modules could be fun to make the lives of defenders easer.

Subsystems, to make Starbases more of an tempting target in wars or for small fleets, is to allow attackers to target specific subsystems, like weapons, labs, factories or reactors.

Industry:

Refineries and Reactors: Being able to deploy a refinery or reactor in high sec would be helpful, Being able to refine or process moon goo in Empire will not move it out of 0.0 or low sec completely if done correctly. With reactors simple solution is make the less efficient, so they run for 2hours instead of 1 per cycle, so in empire you have to run larger more expensive Starbases to get the same results. With refineries, in high sec , if you can deploy a tower there you already have a perfect refine somewhere in that corner of empire, so why no make them available. Also with a Starbase refinery make them work instantly, or if they have to have a significantly shorter processing time.

Jumpclone:

Having a Clone facility on a Starbase even in WHs and Empire, it could increase the operativeness for combat which is probably the point here.


Other stuff

Please, Please, let us have Starbase Jumpdrive and Cloaking, if nothing else.

Starbase Accessories/customization, if we can fit items like solar panels to a Starbase then they should be practical, they should at least provide power to a tower, maybe even enough to power a small Starbase if there are a few attached.

Also would be good to have Computer Centre Structure/Module to boost a Starbases CPU.

Thanks

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Industry:

Labs and Factories: It would be helpful if the labs and factories came in blocks of 10, instead of the random mess we currently have. So you would buy ME, PE, Copying, Invention, Reverse Engineering, labs separably in blocks of 10, so you only get what you want and not waste a load of lab space. Factories would be the same you install blocks of 10, but they can be used to manufacture anything, rather than being specialized, as the current system is just messy to use at times, and build slots are at times insufficient to justify even buying that type of array. The main exception to the factories in the new system would probably be a separate super capital construction array.

Hanger Arrays: it would good if the Starbase only had a Single, Corporation, Alliance or Personal hanger to store stuff, as the current system again is messy. The main idea for this would be if you add factories or labs to a Starbase, is that it gives a % bonus to the hanger array capacity, instead of adding another separate hanger which you will have to transfer stuff into to complete a job every time.

These changes would significantly speed up a lot of industry,

Despite of your: "TL;DR it sux" I will answer your point.

Minecraft and lego have allot of lovers, because it is a kind of game that let the imagination flow, allowing you to create something that you can say that came from you and it is unique! And this is a feeling that allot of people seek, making this 2 games really popular. So it is a market that CCP can explore, i'm sure that many will love this. Also this is the level of freedom that EVE needs for the POS construction, because it will make every POS unique, looking different, ( actually all look like soap bubbles).

If you think that this is too boring, ok, corp and pos management is not for you. Becouse if you ever put an Large POS operational you would know how difficult is to set all buildings in the right place, all guns in the right pattern, fuel it, put ammunition on every gun, and then set the roles. How manny posses did you had?

Keep in mind that the EVE biggest value does not simply lay on the Spaceship PVP, there are lots of different things in the sandbox that make it unique and all players find a different way to play his game. And even if you don't want, I bet there will be someone in you corporation that will want to spend some time to build the corp "castle" in a way it will look good. There is always someone to do this on good corporations ( in mine people would fight for this right ). like there are people who loves PI, or exploration, or Industry, or market, these are all different games inside eve.

Also, this is all ideas, and all ideas that are post in this forum belongs to CCP, ( so, steeling ideas inside the forum simply does not exist ). CCP is free to use them or not, this is why I spent so much time thinking and posting here, this is a chance to make a small contribution with one, or part of an Idea.

obs: I goot good feedback on this by evemail, so it totaly worth it

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A nice refreshing topic about starbases for a change.

Enjoyed your take on it, but I do have some food for thought. What about a docking bay module specifically for capital ships (i.e. Freighters) that would allow easy mooring to tower modules and transfer of goods in and out of modules without the crappy design oversight when it comes to freighters and tower modules and error messages. I noticed you did it for industrial ships here and there, just slightly worried this manifestation is focusing on sub-cap pilots only...


Thumbs up to everything else tho

I really like the idea, or most of it at least.

Expect starbases shaped like... yeah.

A new POS system would have a big positive impact on EVE economy, keeping in mind that if you allow for the industrial players to build POS into real INDUSTRIAL COMPOUNDS, you can take these to deep nullsec or WH-Space, making these BASES for local development where people could actually live, people will start calling them home.

As you make these Starbases a structure that can be upgraded constantly (endless growth possibility) you would create a huge resources sink, so big alliances could build real CAPITAL STARBASES, that would demand a constant industrial effort over them, making the industrial player meaningful for them.

The capital starbase, would also drawn allot of attention as a target. being a real PVP meaningful target. more then any outpost, and people would really fight for them. (Although the outpost would still be a safer option. but less efficient for industrials)

Small corps would also have the corporation main starbase where corp players would gather, what would be realy god for rolleplay.

Is there something bad that can come from it?

Possibly the Shape of the Starbase would be of great influence on combat mechanics around it. What would create allot of new strategies. So a Starbase Entrance that is surrounded by other structures and collidable objects have a chance to create a safer area for players Undock/Dock and prevent cloaked ships to get close to certainly areas of the POS. Although a bad designed entrance could cause ships to collide on exit, making it hard to leave the POS, what is not a good experience....

But IF the starbase count as a big collidable object, or if there are some restrictions on the docking area requirement, these strategies would not be possible.... but this is up to ccp to decide.

I like your Idea of a complex geometry for colision, these would give chance of awesome designs...