EVE New Citizens Q&A

OP sucks @ EVE.

Rule #1 in EVE, is don't let anyone else tell you how to play. It's a sandbox. it is your game. Play it how you want (and deal with the consequences.)

Of course, it's smart to be smart. Stuff the OP says is stuff that a stupid person thinks is the solution to their screwups, not actual common problems, and definitely problems at all for smart people.

The best thing you can do when researching a corp to join, regardless it's size or focus, check their killboards. If they suck so bad at EVE, they can't keep a ship alive for 5 minutes, you probably shouldn't be too interested in being in their corp. If, however, they have a better than even k/d ratio, they probably know what they are doing enough to teach you how to do what you want, and how to do unto others what you'd rather they didn't do unto you.

And yes, do beware of recruitment scams though those are pretty rare. The bigger risk is incompetence. But at least even the incompetent are trying, which is what the OP advises you against.

You seem to have missed the fact that this thread is about the supposed virtues of being in a player corp. Therefore the definitition of 'solo' in this context = 'not in a player corp'.

I don't see any way that this is relevant to the activities I mentioned. For instance, when I'm trading it doesn't matter if I'm in a corp or not or how big that corp might be - it's me vs every other player in EVE.

I'm unaware of any game mechanism that enables another player's skills and abilties can be transferred to me, and even if there were such it wouldn't enable me to gain more enjoyment from playing - my pleasure comes from how well I perform, not borrowing from others.

OP seems to be under the impression that you can't PVP and can't enter nullsec or lowsec without having 10 mill skillpoints in "relevant areas". Therefore, OP should stop posting, he's just giving newbs terrible advice.

Everyone should start doing what he wants as soon as he can. Get into that Rifter and into low and null. Now.

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Yes, I am a bit critical of low pop corps, having few members -> usually not all of them are in the same timezone, this means low activity and less social interaction ... which for a newbie is rather important

Mining corps have them mining ops, is a good place for newbies to learn how fleet and teamwork works, and various bits of eve gameplay (what is this contracting you speak of ... ?), this without the pressure of 'omg ..my ship is going to blow up'. Also there is a bit more social interaction to counter the boredom, a newbie can gather useful information at it's own pace from the more experienced people.

That's what I did back in the day and haven't regretted it. Altho, to be fair, Eve-uni would be a better place to start nowadays than ye olde mining corp -_-;

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Mixing alcohol and massive doses of caffeine does not a good forum post make

I dont agree with the "dont do 0.0 / low sec attitude" and you certainly dont need 10M combat SP. FW can be a fairly good training ground for low isk PVP. Just expect to lose ships when you start.

FW is also a good way to ruin your standing with a empire faction or 2. I'd be hesitant to plunge a newbie into it without him comprehending the consequences.

"dont do 0.0 / low sec attitude" .. I did say 0.0 can have a use for newbies (tackle for example), however jumping to lowsec pvp corps straight out of the tutorial missions is not a good idea, no matter how one tries to slice it

As I said in the OP, RvB and Eve-Uni are more suitable places for newbies at this stage.


I'm sure your corp has a need for a pos ( wormhole? 0.0?) and that you provide full ship replacement ...I guess for pvp ? perhaps restricted to t1 hulls ?
I'm guessing you supply the ships for suicide tackle/heavy tackle free of charge, in your situation this works best and indeed is a good reason to have a sizable chunk of corp tax.

However other corps have replacement programs only for certain high ranks, or simply collect that tax for undisclosed reasons. This is what I'm warning the new players against, since it usually means something iffy is going on.

The problem I have with the OP, and from the looks of it I think many others here feel similar, is not that it point out all the dangers of joing a corp as a newbie but rather that it ONLY seems to point out dangers of joining many types of corps.

your making broad generalizations as a more experianced player giving advice to newbies, and this just leads to horrible missinformation. Your posts have truth to them, and lots of it, but there is a big difference between warning newbies of what dangers can lie out there and telling them that everything is too dangerous for them to try at this stage.

Instead of leading newbies to believe that almost every highsec corp with a tax over 5% is a scam you should advise them to seek out corps that have some transparency in how they appropriate their tax funding.

Just point out both sides of the coin when givning advise, otherwise your just spreading vastly slanted veiws as general knowladge that newbies should know

Well, from my perspective your criticism does seem rational and logical. (But hey, I have not been here long enough, to form an argument of authority as many in this thread have already done)

I guess, I am just taking a "hit" since I was planing to make a low-pop - tightly-knit group of miners, and perhaps you where just bursting my bubble.

I can also understand your argument about mining corps, however you are not addressing my point.
My argument isn't that people cannot learn from mining corps. my argument is that if you do not want to mine in the first place, joining a mining corp seems like a bad idea to me.

I am thinking about joining eve-uni since I have heard and read a lot about them. And I do not think I am ready to start anything on my own just yet.
Who knows, perhaps someone already made what I am looking for, and might find them :)

Ignore the trolls, don't feed them, and whatever you do; do not panic.
Also, 42!

I agree with everyone that says newbies can PvP from day one, can enter lowsec from day one, and can join a lowsec corp from day one. You just have to be a little critical and take care not to get scammed on your way in. On your own you are a target, but in a small gang you can be a valuable asset (think scrams/webs/painters) within limited training time.

In relation to wardecs, a lowsec corp might even be a tad safer, because many consider a wardec on people in lowsec a waste of ISK, and your typical hisec dweller might just give up the chase if you jump into lowsec. There are scores of new people still unimpressed by lowsec's reputation as a death trap, which is commendable. Lowsec is less scary when you see it as a place to hide from hisec threats, learn the mechanics by heart, embrace new friendships there, and have patience and perseverence.

I think it's more important to find a corp that fits with what you want to do in EvE, and that consists of people that play in a likewise manner. By that I 100% mean attitude, not actual activities per se. It's more enjoyable to surround yourself with people that desire the same level of risk and reward.


For me that fishy reason would be "I enjoy seeing people learn and improve" and "I am tired of bittervets, I enjoy newbie enthousiasm". While you can't be too carefull when it comes to any long-term commitment in EvE, I'd advise against blind paranoia just as well. Lowsec CEO's should at least inform you very well on the consequences of lowering your security status, for example, and shouldn't be trying to keep you out of hisec. Find a balance between learning and experiencing, risk and reward, that you are comfortable with.

To all (new) players looking for a corp:

SP helps, attitiude matters.

Most corps have a minimum sp limit. But show the right attitude and many of them will be flexible with that limit.
A lot of corps rather have someone just under the limit with the mindset to learn stuff then a bittervet that thinks he knows it all.