EVE General Discussion

Why should we bring 300 million isk ships if miners won't fit <1 million isk tank mods?

Realy no idear why some of you rage so much.

Isn't this game called a SANDBOX game?
Doesn't the one who like to mine pay the same real money as you do equal what you do?

If they want to afk-mine and have fun doing it .. what the hell is your damn problem?????
They found their little corner in this SANDBOX like you found your corner.

If I check the forums I allways find semi-arguments like: "I do nothing wrong, it's legit game mechanic" or "I do it for fun".
You must be realy short mindet, if you belive, your way is the only true way people can have fun (and should be allowed to have fun)!

Yes, I do semi-afk mining too and I LOVE it! I pay ~12,-€ each month just to be able to do it (and no, not plex, I use real money!!). While I do it, I watch TV or read a book or do my normal hause work (the stuff you have to do if you have no mom anymore). In addition I invest several hundret million ISK to make my miner a good miner (tank or yield or mix what ever I like).

So where is your damn legitimation which says: you just need 20m to destroy this?? Right, there is no such legitimation!! And your:" buhaha but I want to" is by far not enough! It's not even worth the hot air comming out of your mouth.

You are completely correct sir. That's why I'm glad I can still gank people that need to die..

They do over the market ... which by the defenition of many gankers is PvP too ... as everywhere is PvP.
This is one of the standart answares of GANKERS! Market = PvP! So it comes from guys like YOU!

So again, what is your problem?


PS: oh and YOU can do what you want and should be allowed to do it .... but other are NOT allowed and should NOT be allowed to do what they want?
Can imagin just one word for this: AROGANT

8,4M > 1M



But only thing you care about is your stupid profit. If only thing you want is to interfere, why do you care about your little iskies?

You can still gank my Rokh in 1.0 system if you so want. But no, you don't do it because you will lose money!

Sorry but this is what wannabe mini Rambos belive.

They belive, they are heroic, when they kill helpless targets.
They allways cry "this is sandbox".
They belive, they can DICTATE, what everyone should do.

And as soon as someone does not worship this mini Rambos they start to flame and flood the forum like pink babys "mumi, they don't want to play like I play *whine whine whine*".


Oh and btw ... which ships do you want to fly without miner?
No miner => no production => NO SHIPS FOR YOU!

Ah, I see, you just want to run your own mining bots :D.
That's why no other player should be allowed to do it. NOW I understand *enlight*.

tell me exactly how you can require x amount of isk to gank, say, a hulk

You are the best excample that I am right.
You cry "I can't do anymore what I want to do". You expect, you can do what you want and noone is allowed to stop your doing ... not even CCP.


ROFL what?? This is just stupid!
Most if not all Miners ARE allready Producer. And nealy every Producer is Miner at the same time. Except the Producer is a ISK-maker Alt for something else. And then he need to buy the ore from the market. But which ore should he buy without miners?

And even if there would be anything corect about your statement ... you would never care if you gank a bot, a semi-afk, an active or an producer ... you just want to gank!

So tell me, once noone want to mine anymore, not even the producer you talk about ... which ships do you fly then?

LOL???
Did you read the DEV-Blog?

In a group where you have Haulers Hulk>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mackinaw.
If you mine in dangures areas Skif >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mackinaw.
If you are to lazy anything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU

The numbers don't lie. You do!

…and you can point to an example of this, I presume?

How am I dictating anything? I'm telling them how the game works and how they can make use of the tools available to solve the issues they're having, removing the need to cry endlessly over something that was never a problem to begin with. By the way. I don't gank. So nice ad hominem. Since your entire post rests on this basic fallacy, it's pretty much all wrong. Would you like to try again?

I know that what I do doesn't have enough risk. That's why I want to see ganking made easier and more common: so my risks increase. I don't know why you're so angry about me wanting to see more risk for me…

You seem to assume that only carebears can mine. If there were no more miners, then the industrialists — the people who do the same thing without the carebear entitlement issues and their incomplete understanding of game fundamentals — will step in and keep the line going. They will not stop producing just because they get ganked — they'll find a way around it (in fact, they probably already have) or include it as a general business expense and keep going. So tell me, why would they not want to mine any more?

Lol no. For group mining, Hulk >>>>>>> Mack, because the group lets the Hulk do what the Hulk does best — extract massive amounts of base materials — without being held back by what it doesn't do well. You're also skipping the fourth category: paranoid miner = Skiff > all.