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How would you define a "carebear"?
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Kult Altol
The Safe Space
#181 - 2012-08-14 05:40:17 UTC
me.

[u]Can't wait untill when Eve online is Freemium.[/u] WiS only 10$, SP booster for one month 15$, DPS Boost 2$, EHP Boost 2$ Real money trading hub! Cosmeitic ship skins 15$ --> If you don't [u]pay **[/u]for a product, you ARE the [u]**product[/u].

Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#182 - 2012-08-14 06:58:57 UTC
A person who fits 3 Capacitor Control Circuits on a faction battleship.

EVE is exceptional in it's tolerance towards these types of people- in any normal game this kind of behaviour would result in a permaban. I guess seeing those fits posted is the ultimate price we have to pay, because ~sandbox~ .

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Abel Merkabah
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#183 - 2012-08-14 09:41:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Abel Merkabah
Mechael wrote:
Abel Merkabah wrote:
Lilianna Star wrote:
Mechael wrote:
Any PvP averse player.

Thing about EVE is that just about everything is a form of PvP. The moment you touch the market, you've PvPed. This makes the only activities that are not PvP: mission running, ratting ... and then only when you don't sell your loot or buy new ships/modules/ammo.

There really are no carebears in EVE, despite what some hard-headed, impassioned players think. I can only assume that such types want to see EVE become something like a Free-For-All League of Legends in space.

The most fun part of EVE is, in my opinion, not the ship-to-ship combat but rather the economical and political combat.


Wait, you seem to confuse PvP with interacting with other players.

How in the world does, say, buying something off the market act against another player? It's a fair trade. They want your money more than they want their module or ship or whatever, and your money is worthless without the ability to spend it.

Unintentionally aiding someone else act against other players is not a player engaging in PvP.


When I purchase a module for the lowest price, I am denying another person that module at that price...

It's not buyers vs sellers, but buyers vs buyers and sellers vs sellers...

How is this not obvious?

Edit - although there is buyers vs sellers when ever you don't purchase a product for the current market price, or when sellers corner a market to get a premium...just basic market pvp is bvb or svs.


In this vein, I would really, really love to see CCP allow us to see who we're purchasing from or selling to before we make the transaction.

EDIT: Better still, on top of this make it so that we can set prices based on standings or even disallow people with bad standings from doing business with us.


+1...for the seeing who we are buying from. Then boycotts could be an effective tool if you get enough support for them.

Edit - that +1 applies to other ideas in your post to, like pricing, I just worded the above wrong and am not going to correct because I'm on my phone.

James315 for CSM 8!
Patrakele
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#184 - 2012-08-14 10:04:00 UTC
People who care enough to post - everyone here.
El Puerco
P.W. Minerals
#185 - 2012-08-14 10:07:13 UTC
Is this still going on?

Errare humanum est.
Kyra Felann
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#186 - 2012-08-14 21:50:50 UTC
Mechael wrote:
Any PvP averse player.

Thing about EVE is that just about everything is a form of PvP. The moment you touch the market, you've PvPed. This makes the only activities that are not PvP: mission running, ratting ... and then only when you don't sell your loot or buy new ships/modules/ammo.

There really are no carebears in EVE, despite what some hard-headed, impassioned players think. I can only assume that such types want to see EVE become something like a Free-For-All League of Legends in space.

The most fun part of EVE is, in my opinion, not the ship-to-ship combat but rather the economical and political combat.


I disagree about one point: there is one activity in EVE with no PvP--mission-running. Mission-running and other NPC combat is the only real PvE in the game.
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#187 - 2012-08-14 22:28:09 UTC
The "carebear" is one of those scarry stories told to little kids over a camp fire to terrify the living **** out of them. Well, that's what I heard anyway.

Hence, carebear=boogeyman of Eve. Twisted

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
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