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Some Rumor in Serenity

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Syler Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
#21 - 2012-08-10 21:43:23 UTC
paleyd wrote:
Syler Puuntai wrote:
Think its more a misinterpretation. Those ships are given to certain individuals for reporting reasons. Similar to the ISD on Tranq. The same is probably done on Serenity but have different requirements/restrictions/name.


The player own organization clarfies itself as having nothing to do with Tiancity the Serenity Server agent. Yet Tiancity issues a Polaris Observer to this organization without any early notice and claims that they have had authorization for CCP. This is what my friend is skeptical about.


If its ran by Tiancity then it really doesn't need authorization from CCP to release something like that. I don't know Tiancity's policy on this ship however like i said earlier they are probably using it for the same purposes as what player reporters use it for on Tranq. Also same with Tranq. I'm sure Serenity have a monitoring system to check for abuse like what you are worried about.
Jim Era
#22 - 2012-08-10 21:49:17 UTC
I'd doubt it.

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Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#23 - 2012-08-10 21:55:01 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
Renan Ruivo wrote:
CCP does not control Serenity?
Serenity is operated by our Chinese partner, Tiancity.


Oh, so its a business partner. Thanks for the clarification.


So ... can i have Polaris? For news. I swear.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Blane Xero
The Firestorm Cartel
#24 - 2012-08-10 21:55:23 UTC
Syler Puuntai wrote:
as what player reporters use it for on Tranq. Also same with Tranq.

"Player Reporters" outside of ISD do not get shiny GM ships period. I'm not even sure the ISD reporting side even monitors combat these days, we don't get battlereports often at all from them and they tend to leave it to players who took part in the fights.

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Spy 21
Doomheim
#25 - 2012-08-10 21:56:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Spy 21
CCP Explorer wrote:
Renan Ruivo wrote:
CCP does not control Serenity?
Serenity is operated by our Chinese partner, Tiancity.


And CCP had to hand over control of their intellectual property to the Chinese partner I 'm guessing?

Surprised we've not seen a Chinese knockoff of the game already.

S

Obfuscation for the WIN on page 3...
paleyd
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2012-08-10 22:01:45 UTC
Syler Puuntai wrote:
paleyd wrote:
Syler Puuntai wrote:
Think its more a misinterpretation. Those ships are given to certain individuals for reporting reasons. Similar to the ISD on Tranq. The same is probably done on Serenity but have different requirements/restrictions/name.


The player own organization clarfies itself as having nothing to do with Tiancity the Serenity Server agent. Yet Tiancity issues a Polaris Observer to this organization without any early notice and claims that they have had authorization for CCP. This is what my friend is skeptical about.


If its ran by Tiancity then it really doesn't need authorization from CCP to release something like that. I don't know Tiancity's policy on this ship however like i said earlier they are probably using it for the same purposes as what player reporters use it for on Tranq. Also same with Tranq. I'm sure Serenity have a monitoring system to check for abuse like what you are worried about.


The problem is since this is a player owned organization when abuse of this ship happens and damage done there's no one to blame. Simply banning this ID would just be a joke since the player behind the screen could just find another ID.
But the real damage in this incident is that it marks that Tiancity could change things as they wish on a 'request of an ordinary reporter'. Who knows what this agent could do?
Would CCP manually lower prices of a profitable module due to a request of a player claiming that the price is too high?
I doubt it.
paleyd
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2012-08-10 22:03:40 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
Renan Ruivo wrote:
CCP does not control Serenity?
Serenity is operated by our Chinese partner, Tiancity.


Oh, so its a business partner. Thanks for the clarification.


So ... can i have Polaris? For news. I swear.


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Syler Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
#28 - 2012-08-10 22:06:11 UTC
What player owned organization?
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#29 - 2012-08-10 22:07:15 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
Renan Ruivo wrote:
CCP does not control Serenity?
Serenity is operated by our Chinese partner, Tiancity.

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Cadfael Maelgwyn
Doomheim
#30 - 2012-08-10 22:07:56 UTC
Spy 21 wrote:
Surprised we've not seen a Chinese knockoff of the game already.

S

I'm pretty sure I've seen several iPhone/smartphone games that use pictures and basic graphics from EVE that were made by Chinese developers.

Dunno if that counts or not.
paleyd
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2012-08-10 22:08:00 UTC
Syler Puuntai wrote:
What player owned organization?


As my friend mentioned in the letter. A eve based internet radio station.
paleyd
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2012-08-10 22:16:00 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
Renan Ruivo wrote:
CCP does not control Serenity?
Serenity is operated by our Chinese partner, Tiancity.


My friend believes that CCP might not have seen the whole picture of this incident. Where could I find a solution for my friend? Is a petition enough?
Syler Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
#33 - 2012-08-10 22:19:31 UTC
paleyd wrote:
Syler Puuntai wrote:
What player owned organization?


As my friend mentioned in the letter. A eve based internet radio station.


Yeah its a radio station that was given the ship for reporting reasons only. If he abuses it then they will take it away...Maybe

Your best bet is to use Serenitys support system to ask if they monitor abuse of specialty ships such as the Polaris. Sadly irregardless of their answer there's not much you or CCP can do about it.
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#34 - 2012-08-10 22:21:13 UTC
paleyd wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
Renan Ruivo wrote:
CCP does not control Serenity?
Serenity is operated by our Chinese partner, Tiancity.


My friend believes that CCP might not have seen the whole picture of this incident. Where could I find a solution for my friend? Is a petition enough?


Enough to get his IP banned and his internet access license revoked.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
paleyd
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2012-08-10 22:33:06 UTC
Syler Puuntai wrote:
paleyd wrote:
Syler Puuntai wrote:
What player owned organization?


As my friend mentioned in the letter. A eve based internet radio station.


Yeah its a radio station that was given the ship for reporting reasons only. If he abuses it then they will take it away...Maybe

Your best bet is to use Serenitys support system to ask if they monitor abuse of specialty ships such as the Polaris. Sadly irregardless of their answer there's not much you or CCP can do about it.



So does this mean that my friend and Serenity Players are at the mercy of Tiancity and the goodwill of this player? And when unfortunate things happen we could do nothing but say ces't la vi.

Hmm, wait a minute. Isn't this incident a proof of Tiancity's direct interference and manipulation of the eve-online gaming system? I thought agents couldn't do that....
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#36 - 2012-08-10 22:35:53 UTC
Spy 21 wrote:
And CCP had to hand over control of their intellectual property to the Chinese partner I 'm guessing?

Surprised we've not seen a Chinese knockoff of the game already.


EvE is so hacked together, even the Chinese cant reverse engineer it.
Tyraeil Starblade
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2012-08-10 22:44:34 UTC
Traejun DiSanctis wrote:
Shalia Ripper wrote:
Came in expecting Firefly discussion.

Left disappointed.


Same.


Came in expecting the winter expansion to be a Firefly themed expansion.

Left disappointed.
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#38 - 2012-08-10 22:50:34 UTC
So Firefly is not restarting? Awwwww

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Pipa Porto
#39 - 2012-08-10 22:54:49 UTC
paleyd wrote:

So does this mean that my friend and Serenity Players are at the mercy of Tiancity and the goodwill of this player? And when unfortunate things happen we could do nothing but say ces't la vi.

Hmm, wait a minute. Isn't this incident a proof of Tiancity's direct interference and manipulation of the eve-online gaming system? I thought agents couldn't do that....


Yes, EVE players are playing in a sandbox run by the company running the sandbox. Roll
For TQ, it's CCP.
For Serenity, it's Tiancity.

And of course Tiancity has a direct effect on Serenity, they run the thing.

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Ifly Uwalk
Perkone
Caldari State
#40 - 2012-08-11 07:40:45 UTC
Syler Puuntai wrote:
they are probably using it for the same purposes as what player reporters use it for on Tranq. Also same with Tranq.

That's not the same as TQ. If CCP were to issue a Polaris ship to any TQ player Goons would batphone PL to hack them a way into Jove space so they could blow up some statues there. And that would just be in the first ten minutes of it happening.