EVE General Discussion

Release it on PC and give it awesome graphics or it WILL fail.

Yes i do play some games based on graphics, eve style games don't require good graphics but when you play BF3 on PC you get sucked into its realism as if you are there, then there is no going back. I have tried DUST and i am not impressed.

So here are my predictions and thoughts:

1. Console players play by personal skills and not by time based skills that effect your armor etc... This is why eve does not have millions of subscribers and yet you apply the same method to console with MT that is mostly made up of kiddies! so there is a fail.


2. Console players like instant action, i personally log onto to FPS's to fill in the gaps of boredom an hour here and there when nothing is happening on eve etc.


3. Once dust is released on console and failed, CCP will quickly release it on PC and will say they are "sorry, the community was right they will listen again.."


4. I then play DUST514 on PC but then realise i don't do planet interaction and i don't care about it, i just want instant action so i log on BF3 with my clan.


5. 2 competitor games coming out! Renegade X which is almost exactly the same as dust514 but better ever played command and conquer renegade back in 2007? and then you have planet side and probably a new COD game..

Don't let this game drag eve down!

confirmation confirmed

Confirming that the traits listed describe all console players. All console players only play CoD/Halo and will hate DUST.

Would you like some Cheese to go with your Whine?

There have been a lot of studies done about gamers over the last decade, one of the primary consensus among all of these studies shows that both console and pc gamers are in the age groups between 32 and 42 and gamers playing in excess of 30+ hours a week tend to be in the higher age groups. Its a myth that "kiddies" play consoles, gaming is prodominantly a grown up hobby. Google game age studies, there is literly dozens of them.

Not saying I nescessarly disagree with the preception that DUST will probobly be more of a gimicky 15 minutes of glory type of game which most console games are, but I think a lot of the posters presumptions about who plays consoles and how they play consoles is actually pretty off base. None the less console gamers tend to play more games thanks to the many aspects of console games you don't see so much on PC games. First is that they can be traded in and rented, hence console gamers have options to replace their games with more regularity. Secondly their is very little modding in console games, hence a game is as its released and you won't see your Half-Life suddenly turned into a Counter-Strike mod to revie the games interest or have new maps, expansions or scenarios for your favorite games. There is also the general convinience of console games. I can go to my friends house, grab his CD, put it in my console and play the game without al the hassle of installations, key codes, registrations and other mumbo jumbo that makes game sharing a pain on the PC hence console gamers tend to get access to considerably more games. Other things like the lack of persistant games (MMO's and long term progression games) means console gamers don't get personally involved in the advancement of their in game characters/worlds or what have you.

There are probobly more, but suffice to say console gamers don't suffer from attention deficits, they aren't kiddies or whatever else the poster said, they simply approach gaming very differently.. kind of like the difference between movie goers and DVD movie collectors... movie goers go see a movie and there done with it, collectors tend to watch the movies in their collection multiple times because they are conviently on their shelf.

Anywho.. long rant, but yeah I agree with the poster but just not for the same reason.. I dont think Dust has much of a future.

I Ditto your Ditto.

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