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Dusties Play Free, We Pay?
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Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#21 - 2012-08-09 22:10:10 UTC
Bootleg Jack wrote:
Aooz wrote:
darmwand wrote:
Bootleg Jack wrote:
Except the shop doesn't sell any item that would give advantage, only vanity stuff. It is not going to be running in the black, we are subsidizing a playstation game.


The same thing could be said about TF2 and its hats yet Valve seem to be doing quite well.


The console gamer is an entirely different animal and DUST is a completely different game. They won't be idling/chatting in trade servers showing off their rares, feeling pressure to buy keys. They'll download a free game when they're bored, play and then put down the controller and possibly never come back.


Which makes any impact people with 0 investment have on a the sandbox really questionable.


That's a good point that's had me wondering what kind of impact CCP expect Dusties to have on our game play when they may only be playing the game for a matter of weeks at most sometimes before moving on to the next cheap thrill they can download.

Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims.
Kievan Arakyd
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-08-09 22:11:34 UTC
Whats this, a corporation using its profits to make more profits! WHAT AN OUTRAGE!

Got my Dust514 key...
Jim Era
#23 - 2012-08-09 22:13:41 UTC
because dust will profit

Wat™
Aruken Marr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2012-08-09 22:23:35 UTC
Dust has the potential to profit. They're running off of the LoL model, definately one of the more profitable f2p models out there. Calm down...
Jim Era
#25 - 2012-08-09 22:24:51 UTC
I just hope that we are in some way allowed to scam the **** out of the dust players. They won't know whats coming.

Wat™
Aruken Marr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2012-08-09 22:31:13 UTC
They'll be subject to the same rules and mechanics as we are as far as I know.
Russell Casey
Doomheim
#27 - 2012-08-09 22:32:52 UTC
So? If they spent it all on booze and hookers it'd still be their money.
Jim Era
#28 - 2012-08-09 22:33:51 UTC
Honestly I really, really hope that Dust could get big, I think it has potential in itself...just the players are what I see a lack of potential in. But I do know lots of people who play console games and have thirsted for something with more "depth" or "meaning" so it will hopefully do good. But, I doubt it.

Wat™
Aooz
Doomheim
#29 - 2012-08-09 22:34:50 UTC
Aruken Marr wrote:
Dust has the potential to profit. They're running off of the LoL model, definately one of the more profitable f2p models out there. Calm down...


Oh, so you need to unlock various soldier archetypes to experience different play styles?

What do you think the LoL model is exactly?
Jim Era
#30 - 2012-08-09 22:36:32 UTC
wait, LoL as in League of Legends? omg, how, could Dust be anything like that shitstain called a game.
or you mean as in, buy new character graphics?

Wat™
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#31 - 2012-08-09 22:43:52 UTC
oh noes, a company using profits from one service to develop another service that might also bring profits, what kind of crazy business idea is this!?!?!

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
Frying Doom
#32 - 2012-08-09 22:48:06 UTC
Even though we can bombard an area from orbit.

I frankly I am a little disappointed that we can't suicide gank the dust bunnies by crashing our ships into them on the ground.

Now that would look as funny as hell, you are happily killing people in Dust and the next thing you know a 1.4 KM long mach for example crashes head first into the ground, killing most of your team mates Big smile

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Jim Era
#33 - 2012-08-09 22:48:46 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Even though we can bombard an area from orbit.

I frankly I am a little disappointed that we can't suicide gank the dust bunnies by crashing our ships into them on the ground.

Now that would look as funny as hell, you are happily killing people in Dust and the next thing you know a 1.4 KM long mach for example crashes head first into the ground, killing most of your team mates Big smile


+1

Wat™
Xiang Jing
State War Academy
Caldari State
#34 - 2012-08-09 22:57:25 UTC
The F2P + cash shop model is super successful and is quickly becoming the norm for MMOs and will continue to infiltrate other genres. CCP is smartly aggressive for giving it a go on consoles, where it's had few attempts but some decent success. The game has to be good enough to back it up, though, and in a really crowded FPS market, it's tough. Going free to play is the best way to infiltrate that market, because then, unsure consumers won't hesitate because of a price tag. And games that rely on cash shops often make really good revenue. The lower income per person is easily surpassed by the expanded user base.

Honestly, I hope to hell it works. It will help to finance both itself and Eve Online, create a more enveloping universe, and potentially create more excitement for this kind of game.
Bootleg Jack
ACME Mineral and Gas
#35 - 2012-08-09 23:40:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Bootleg Jack
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
oh noes, a company using profits from one service to develop another service that might also bring profits, what kind of crazy business idea is this!?!?!


Profits?

1. It is free to play
2. It is free to download
3. NONE of the microtransactions affect balance, they are all cosmetic.
4. FPS players don't bank sit

Profit, no, it is unlikely they can recoup the cost of development much less ongoing operations and support; even with using unpaid employees for customer service.

Nope, we are not subsidizing an investment, we are funding a boat anchor.

You know who is laughing all the way to the bank is Sony, what a win win for them, they got an exculsive, will sell some new consoles and some dumb company built a game for their platform with no hope of making a profit.

I'm an American, English is my second language...
Frying Doom
#36 - 2012-08-09 23:41:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Frying Doom
Bootleg Jack wrote:
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
oh noes, a company using profits from one service to develop another service that might also bring profits, what kind of crazy business idea is this!?!?!


Profits?

1. It is free to play
2. It is free to download
3. NONE of the microtransactions affect balance, they are all cosmetic.
4. FPS players don't bank sit

Profit, no, it is unlikely they can recoup the cost of development much less ongoing operations and supprt.

Nope, we are not subsidizing an investment, we are funding a boat anchor.

You know who is laughing all the way to the bank is Sony, what a win win for them, they got an exculsive, will sell some new consoles and some dumb company built a game for their platform with no hope of making a profit.



I thought Sony were covering the development costs when the game was complete.

Edit: Stupid forums keep showing me the We Were Ganked page.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Lilianna Star
Vagrant Empress
#37 - 2012-08-09 23:42:44 UTC
EVE is a game built from the ground up to be subscription based. Hell, there's an in game market centered on it. This was before the rise of free to play.

EVE is just better as a sub based game rather than a free one.
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#38 - 2012-08-10 00:12:08 UTC
If some bad people didn't kick up a fuss about Nex store then we could be playing for free now.
Boseo
Azure Horizon
#39 - 2012-08-10 01:08:01 UTC
Bootleg Jack wrote:
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
oh noes, a company using profits from one service to develop another service that might also bring profits, what kind of crazy business idea is this!?!?!


Profits?

1. It is free to play
2. It is free to download
3. NONE of the microtransactions affect balance, they are all cosmetic.
4. FPS players don't bank sit

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if it was not for the NDA I would tell you how wrong the bold part of your statement is.

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Blane Xero
The Firestorm Cartel
#40 - 2012-08-10 01:13:09 UTC
non judgement wrote:
If some bad people didn't kick up a fuss about Nex store then we could be playing for free now.

Keep telling yourself that.

I'd rather pay a set amount per month for all the content in a game than play the game for free and have to throw chunks of cash sporadically for specific content. Mind you, I don't believe in supporting segregated content where useless fluff gets more priority from the devs than actual gameplay because the fluff is what brings the money and is, therefore, the smarter thing to manage time for.

Resident Haruhiist since December 2008.

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