Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Because they can offer an in-game alternative to players who enjoy programming and automation, offer some new technology that may actually teach players something new and different, and possibly add a new game option like Cyberwarfare. They can regulate the use of the technology and enforce bans on real-world scripting by saying that the game offers some level of automation that has been designed to keep the impact of these activities in check.

You never know. I am assuming that more than one developer has used LegoNXTs and could imagine allowing players to incorporate some level of behavior into the machines.

If you think about it, look at all of the stuff we already do not have to control. Drones, probes, ships, everything already has extensive programming that we do not have to touch to accomplish our tasks. I am just exploring the idea of letting the players have a window into the machines behavior. That's the exciting part to me.

Tell me the difference between dropping in a rig and dropping in a code module? Hardly anything but a name. We are already scripting. It's just not branded.

If you think of the UI as your window into the objects of Eve, the act of dragging a rig icon into a slot is a highly simplified way to accomplish the complex task of altering the ships properties.

What the hey, modules and rigs have nothing to do with bots and scripting.


Bots and scripts automate what would normally be done by players.

Modules and scripts improve the ship's abilities.

It would require tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of bots to prevent high-sec ice mining from still being possible, and I do that when I want to earn isk while doing something else on my PC. I have 4 monitors and a PC that can easily handle half a dozen or more EVE clients. I'd be annoyed over the lower prices, but I'd still mine ice when I want to read books, watch movies, catch up on my TV, or even play other MMOs and still want to make isk in EVE.

still on this? ok

The idea that there is a comparison between a rig and a bot ( repetitious chain of actions directed by a program and not a player) is hard to understand. simply because they are not at all related. Why this is a talking point (or was) is mind boggling.

Ice mining is a special case as it respawns like normal asteroids yet gets depleted on a much longer time scale. Think of all the other types of asteroids. then think about nullsec mining operations in guarded systems.

Ice mining - while its true that it would take a very massive effort to harvest all the ice in hisec, I have no doubt that some would make their valiant tries. Being able to legaly bot mackinaws or which ever ship for the purpose, one would drop many many bot characters into ice belts. (if the bots are not actually characters but drone like operations add five or however many the maximum is per character to the field) on any given day in gallente space there are over a hundred ice miners out, the numbers are much lower then they were three years ago, when they numbered well over two hundred at the end of dt. 23 hours of ice mining mackinaws with bestowers hauling support. figure about 250 actual miners going. ice prices were around 70-80k per block. on the second most widely used ice in the game. Caldari if i remember right was around 60-70 simply because their ice belts were even more crowded.

I still have some amarr and minmatar ice that i bought from a desperate miner for 18k a block.
This is all just to give you some history of CCP and bots.

CCP changes to bot catching and Goonswarm Ice interdiction/ Helicity Boson's hulkageddon events have dropped the numbers of ice bots and miners, other changes have also raised the prices of minerals.

Bot mining, while adding to the realism of the game ( http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/04/planetary-resources-asteroid-mining/ ) Would ruin the mineral economy again, and make several massively sov holding alliances even richer. When you can make building titans that much easier, and fueling jump bridges that much less of a chore, acquiring huge supercap fleets to roll your opponents is that much easier. everything is devalued again and the production bottleneck once again becomes moon materials. order of the large otec or otec like economic heavy weight reigns again.
while the common hisec nonbot miner makes little or nothing daily as nullsec miners can do it better or other hisec miners with bots and better computers can do it better.

seriously though why are you wanting bots? i understand you think that it would help you but it would really really hurt the game. Im pretty sure you werent around when there were tons of bots around. mining then was fairly well off worthless. as any isk you could make was a pittance to what you could make now. take a look at your total tritanium (as its an easy metric) and value it at 2 isk per unit. its much better at 150% that price for casual miners.

No. Get out.