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Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#1 - 2012-08-09 13:44:23 UTC
What the hell, Sreegs?!

If someone puts a PVE ship anywhere that's not high-sec and goes AFK, he'll be punished by us. You guys don't need to interfere in the sandbox.

And if you mean high-sec complexes ... do these even exist? Honestly, i never done a complex in my life and have no idea how they are supposed to work ...


But i do know that no AFK player with "no third party software" and no cloak can stay alive forever in low/null/wh.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-08-09 13:48:34 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:
What the hell, Sreegs?!

If someone puts a PVE ship anywhere that's not high-sec and goes AFK, he'll be punished by us. You guys don't need to interfere in the sandbox.

And if you mean high-sec complexes ... do these even exist?


Statics. They're also somewhat, uh, difficult to punish because they're in fairly bricked droneboats. In hisec.

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Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#3 - 2012-08-09 13:53:58 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Renan Ruivo wrote:
What the hell, Sreegs?!

If someone puts a PVE ship anywhere that's not high-sec and goes AFK, he'll be punished by us. You guys don't need to interfere in the sandbox.

And if you mean high-sec complexes ... do these even exist?


Statics. They're also somewhat, uh, difficult to punish because they're in fairly bricked droneboats. In hisec.


And does that give any sort of tangible profit? AFK mining on a Iteron V with 1 mining laser can also run for several hours ... Although in this case it is very easy to kill it.

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Rengerel en Distel
#4 - 2012-08-09 13:59:17 UTC
this needed another thread?

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#5 - 2012-08-09 14:02:36 UTC
hoped to read something about AFK FW plexer... left disapointed

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Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-08-09 14:03:42 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:
And does that give any sort of tangible profit? AFK mining on a Iteron V with 1 mining laser can also run for several hours ... Although in this case it is very easy to kill it.


An Iteron V will eventually run out of cargo space (even fully expanded, it cannot AFK mine indefinitely) and it's a paper thin ship. Can an Iteron even fill up before it depletes the rock?

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Sotah Osodin
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-08-09 14:10:48 UTC
You can't just bump them out of rep range?
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#8 - 2012-08-09 14:14:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Vincent Athena
Renan Ruivo wrote:
What the hell, Sreegs?!

If someone puts a PVE ship anywhere that's not high-sec and goes AFK, he'll be punished by us. You guys don't need to interfere in the sandbox.

And if you mean high-sec complexes ... do these even exist? Honestly, i never done a complex in my life and have no idea how they are supposed to work ...


But i do know that no AFK player with "no third party software" and no cloak can stay alive forever in low/null/wh.

They are COSMOS complexes, in high sec. They spawn cruisers and battle ships, with bounties, every few minutes, indefinitely.

CCP may need to make these complexes move, like incursions sites. Once one is done, a new one spawns.

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Brokers Clone
#9 - 2012-08-09 14:15:46 UTC
In case you are confused about the genesis of this thread...

CCP Sreegs wrote:
Dearest Internet Spaceship Pilots,
It has come to our attention recently that there are pilots in New Eden engaging in AFK Complex farming. Specific examples of this include such activities as warping into a particular room in a complex, dropping sentry drones, then going to do your laundry or perhaps watch a 24 hour Lazytown marathon. While this activity does not necessitate the use of a 3rd party program in order to carry it out you ARE generating income in an automated fashion while sleeping which is not being present playing the game. As such our automated systems will continue to detect and institute administrative actions for this activity. We do not find this to be acceptable gameplay.
All accounts which were tagged prior to this notification will be given the benefit of the doubt and a one-time “amnesty”, removing the offending marks from the account. Going forward any administrative actions will remain in place. Game Design will also be looking at changing our complex systems so that this is no longer possible in the near future.
Thank you for your time and attention,
Brokers Clone
#10 - 2012-08-09 14:20:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Brokers Clone
I must say... this feels like a dangerous incursion into the sandbox....

This is an example of someone doing something QUITE risky (AFK in ANY-Sec)
Not making use of a bot, or in any automated fashion, retreating if hostilities occur...

The ONLY thing that the devs should do is to make a minor tweak to the game (Say, after a while under barrage, the object getting hit will simply de-spawn for a while... or move... or will return fire aimed at the drones)

In no case should CCP begin to punish for "undesirable, but NON-exploitive behavior"
cheese monkey
NuKeDD
NuKeDD.
#11 - 2012-08-09 14:22:46 UTC
If i'm running a mission or anom in my passive domi or ishtar (or whatever dronesship) and there are the last few ships to kill... i then get a phone call to leave the house... I'm going to get banned?

I'm sorry but this is stupid. I play eve because i have time free in the day... i work from home and i take care of the house n stuff too. I literally CANNOT give eve my full attention... i never have been able to!

I play, but most of the time i fly passive ships because i am usually AFKish, due to other more important aspects of my life. If CCP don't like this then they can ban me...!! Im sorry but if they change this then they are changing the very reason i started playing and PAYING for this game!! (because it was a sandbox!!)

Essentially CCP is saying that i cannot play anymore! This is the WORST business proposal in the history of the game!!

I understand making botting or using a third party program illegal... but going afk??


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Bagehi
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-08-09 14:23:44 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
Renan Ruivo wrote:
What the hell, Sreegs?!

If someone puts a PVE ship anywhere that's not high-sec and goes AFK, he'll be punished by us. You guys don't need to interfere in the sandbox.

And if you mean high-sec complexes ... do these even exist? Honestly, i never done a complex in my life and have no idea how they are supposed to work ...


But i do know that no AFK player with "no third party software" and no cloak can stay alive forever in low/null/wh.

They are COSMOS complexes, in high sec. They spawn cruisers and battle ships, with bounties, every few minutes, indefinitely.

CCP may need to make these complexes move, like incursions sites. Once one is done, a new one spawns.


But I enjoyed bumping those guys until they were off-grid. It was pretty hilarious. Takes a while, but hilarious.

Honestly though, AFK mining and AFK ratting exist in the game because of the PVE game mechanics. If CCP wants to dissuade AFK mining/plexing/ratting/missioning, then they need to change the mechanics so it isn't so mind-numbingly boring while simultaneously easy to AFK.
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#13 - 2012-08-09 14:24:51 UTC
AFK ratting = bad
AFK mining = buffed?

What?

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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#14 - 2012-08-09 14:26:12 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:

And if you mean high-sec complexes ... do these even exist? Honestly, i never done a complex in my life and have no idea how they are supposed to work ...


...but gosh darnit, I'm going to start a thread anyway!

Derp.

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Brokers Clone
#15 - 2012-08-09 14:30:32 UTC
Spurty
#16 - 2012-08-09 14:33:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Commander Spurty
AFK bad

Add code that sends self destruct sequence to ships that have had no interaction via the player

Make it a pop up that appears randomly somewhere on the screen, but at the front of the screen and can't be covered up (not modal Though).

"Self destruct initiated. Press this button to cancel the count down"

This option must be allowed to function on cloaked ships as well ( not sure why you can't initiate self destruct while cloaked mind you, never tried it).

Then add ammo to Drones. Drones are outrageous with their infinite ammo and zero cap usage.

/me retreats back into shadows to lurk and see who gets mad (can usually spot them. They are te loonies saying "U mad?"

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Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-08-09 14:39:01 UTC
cheese monkey wrote:
If i'm running a mission or anom in my passive domi or ishtar (or whatever dronesship) and there are the last few ships to kill... i then get a phone call to leave the house... I'm going to get banned?

I'm sorry but this is stupid. I play eve because i have time free in the day... i work from home and i take care of the house n stuff too. I literally CANNOT give eve my full attention... i never have been able to!

I play, but most of the time i fly passive ships because i am usually AFKish, due to other more important aspects of my life. If CCP don't like this then they can ban me...!! Im sorry but if they change this then they are changing the very reason i started playing and PAYING for this game!! (because it was a sandbox!!)

Essentially CCP is saying that i cannot play anymore! This is the WORST business proposal in the history of the game!!

I understand making botting or using a third party program illegal... but going afk??



You're getting upset for nothing. This isn't an issue of people being AFK for some time because of RL intereferes. It's an issue where people log on after DT, go to a plex with infinite respawns, put out their drones with RR on them and go AFK for the entire day. Basicly printing ISK for no effort from the player. This is the same basic problem as with botting and should be made impossible to do. The ruling also seems like a temporary thing until game design can put in a solution, that makes the practise impossible to do.
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-08-09 14:40:36 UTC
Isn't more about people sitting in a plex preventing it from respawning while they sleep ?

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Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-08-09 14:54:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Barbara Nichole
Renan Ruivo wrote:
What the hell, Sreegs?!

If someone puts a PVE ship anywhere that's not high-sec and goes AFK, he'll be punished by us. You guys don't need to interfere in the sandbox.

And if you mean high-sec complexes ... do these even exist? Honestly, i never done a complex in my life and have no idea how they are supposed to work ...


But i do know that no AFK player with "no third party software" and no cloak can stay alive forever in low/null/wh.


Sounds like to me you've never done anything in high sec. Why do you believe things in high sec need to be identical to things in WH, low sec, null sec. Each of these areas is dfferent and have their own unique play.. but in case you aren't just a troll, let me explain that an afk pilot in high sec can't stay alive forever either... not only that they can't make that much money if they are truly afk - and even if they are not afk, they make significantly less money per hour than in any other zone in the game.

Maybe if you join eve university and learn about high sec you'd be better off.

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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#20 - 2012-08-09 14:56:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Pak Narhoo
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