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Tutorial on the NeoCom bar issue ..... still not fixed.

Unified Inventory issues ..... where do I begin???

See the link in my signature block? Most of these issues still haven't been resolved but since no one seems to read it I'll just re-post.

Mining Operations:
If you've ever held a mining op that:

- Used jet-cans tractored in by a Rorqual or Orca
- Dumping directly into the cargo bay on an Orca
- Dumping from an Orca into a Rorqual,

This was incredibly easy to do, and is now incredibly painful. You really need the tabbed window view brought back for doing these operations and its obvious that whomever came up with this design hasn't spent hours in a belt or mining out the ABC's of an anom/grav site. We need to be able to quickly tab between the different bays on ships like the Orca, Rorqual, carriers, and freighters like we did prior to this release.

With the recent changes to the mining barges and exhumers that pushes Hulk pilots into mining ops with Orca or Rorqual support, not being able to address or fix this huge flaw causes a major issue that adversely affects gameplay.


Looting/Salvaging Wrecks:
This should be super easy with two clicks (open cargo, loot all button) but it's now just madness. I don't want to open an inventory control panel (and wait for it to load) while looting wrecks. All I need to see is the cargo hold of the wreck or the container that I'm looting, not everything in this ridiculous Windows 3.1 File Manager view you've forced upon us. This not only applies to belt ratting, but running a Noctis through a plex to get all the goodies and T2 salvage. If you've ever looted and salvaged wrecks in a plex, you know most of the time you're on the move because you could have wrecks as far out as 80km to 140km away. I do not want to close the cargo hold of every wreck I've looted or have it auto-default back to my cargohold view after looting when it used to "auto-close" on it's own. The process of looting/salvaging wrecks was once very easy and now has become a chore.

Corp Hangars:
Moving things like blueprints in/out of a corp hangar to research using the corp lab (or corp assets in general) are painful. There is no reason why I need to open my entire station inventory, then open (shift+click) on the specific corp hangar, then open (another shift+click) the container with my blueprints, and then struggle with now open containers/corp hangar/inventory control panel that will reset their size every session change, or try to bring what I need to the front because they are now hidden behind a single massive inventory control panel. Double clicking and opening a containter was much easier.

Session Resets:
When I open my cargo hold, drone bay, station containers, anchored containers, Corp Hangar, or my friend's corp bay in his Orca, I don't want to deal with resizing it every single time I need to open it. I have different sizes for each window, along with where I want that window, based on what action each item provides me whether its dumping ammo into my hold, adding/removing drones, or just trying to keep track of minerals or blueprints. This is something that I shouldn't have to struggle doing. And yes, I've cleared my cache to fix it which hasn't helped.

Double Clicking:
Wow, I thought this was a feature not a flaw of the game. Wasn't this something new with the previous release, Incarna? This really needs to be be brought back.

Active Ship:
When you're in an active ship and it's in the top left of the new UI, it's confusing to see directly below it the word, "None". Okay, none what? The inconsistency here is when I open my Items Hangar, I can see what items are there. I should be able to see all items are both in and on my ship, not just the drone bay if it exists (which by the way is what "None" represents). And if a ship doesn't have a drone bay, why do you even have "None" there at all?

POS Management:
Some of these have been fixed, but explain to me why I need to see POS guns while trying to board a ship that is in the ship maintenance array. If you're going to force the Windows 3.1 File Manager view on us, you need to finish it, fix it, refine it, or toss the whole lot out and go back to what we used to have with Incarna.

Pricing of contents in containers:
I'm primarily an industrialist, so I know how to use the market history tools already available in the market view. Where is the need to know how much my ships cost, or how much various sizes and quantities of ammo cost? This makes no sense because if I have missiles mixed with hybrid ammo, you're now making "apples + oranges = ISK" and its no longer an accurate representation of each items value. This option needs to be thrown out, period, since it's not even accurate and can be anywhere from +/- 30% off to as much as +/- 90% off.

Buttons:
You've gotten rid of the "Corp Hangar" button from the "Station Services" but kept the "Rent Office" and "Move HQ Here" buttons. Where is the consistency?

If this UI actually added any benefit I would sing its praises, instead it has now made things incredibly difficult for me that were once very simple.

My feedback on the Mining Barge/Exhumer changes can be found here.

In regards to the Etnic Relations skill, I do also feel like it should have been a deletion of the skill and an introduction of a new one. I now hav SP stuck in a skill I don't care for which would be fine if not that the amount of SP affect stuff like clone cost.
I never made a decision to train Diplomatic...whatever, but now I have, and I can't even delete it from my brain, even if I don't care about the lost SP (but yes, that whole "it is changed, not removed" is nonsense, as some pointed out, you removed a skill and put a new one in it's place).
The point: Please allow me to delete that skill from my brain, I don't care if I lose the SP.

Self destruct now drops loot:
What?!? Isn't the point of selfdestructing to deny your enemies technology and stuff? Why make a function so useless? You might as well make ammo that does no damage.

good post, but CCP are proving that with regards to the things mentioned by yourself, they just dont care. So much for this 'we'll work on it until your happy' scenario. More like 'if we ignore it for long enough, all the moaners will have quit so then we can concentrate on new customers'. I mean, look how long its taking them to just fix the tutorial icon on the neocom?

To be frank about it, the way CCP work at times is embarrassing. They really havent got a clue about what its like to actually 'play' the game.

I mostly like the changes _this patch_ has brought us. The only change that has affected me negatively so far has been how the modules show what it is if I hover mouse over them, and as many people have wished before, I too wish we will be given option to remove it totally (adding option to delay it is a bonus, but removing it should be priority). Maybe this is already in - I haven't played much recently.

One of the most positive changes was that I actually did some mining after a long while of doing Other Stuff. Those mining sessions brought in this development idea: Composition scanners should show the amount of cubic meters of ore left the scanned roids have left. This should be shown in addition to the current 'units left'. This is because everyone is not familiar with units to m3 conversions. (Maybe some day the whole 'units' can be replaced with just cubic meters, yes, maybe?)

Another idea: We should have ore mining rigs too, because currently the mining ships can only specialize in Ice or Tank. Also, gas mining could use some love too.

The thing that hasn't affected my character personally is this "not-skill-removal-but-reuse-in-different-matter" (Ethnic Relations to Whatever New Name & Purpose the skill was given) but it has affected me in person. By not giving back the skill points CCP proved they are lazy. By explaining that they didn't really remove the skill but 'changed' it CCP proved how low they are ready to go to protect the problems caused by their laziness. Laziness I can understand and even relate to, the explanation by Grayscale and follow up by Explorer especially I do not accept and in fact despise - the despised part is below:



No, even though I am quitting once my account runs out (because EVE has again become boring for me, not the above minor fiasco), you cannot have my stuff. With a very small probability I might be back one day after all. Until that day: Fly safe, have fun and give some time to RL too! :)

yea +1 to have option remove that info windows from modules, there some situation where its can cost you your shiny ship..

so far so good mostly.

Like the Inventory now! all windows remember positions works as it should be, dunno about if the rc options on ships docked in station r back (access hangars fuel drones etc) hope u work(ed) on it also.

P.S. PLS introduce new ships explosions, cose with the help of all these new shaders, new textures, ship models looks cool (not those with camo! jaja!), but when its comes to bigbadaboom... anyhow its just disabled in settings for now, there nothing u like to see.

P.P.S. dunno if its just me but i noticed that EvE still losing something, with every new CSM.. i think u should never let players affect on the game in that way, all these 0.0 nerds r just carry about own "serious business".

so you still arent capable of fixing the tutorial icon on the neocom.

Well, the only thing that this new gadget does is remove the need to hold shift.

You still have to open the goddam tree to navigate and scroll through all the folders there to find the folder that you have previously marked to open in a new window.

It is only a marginal improvement at best. A one-eyed donkey wearing a blindfold could see that, how the hell can't you ?

Bring back the buttons, remaining right-click shortcuts and the tabbed Corp hanger - all set to open in a NEW window. How many times do we have to tell you people this, we want an alternative to scrolling through that goddam tree all the time.

currently doing a courrier contract for a friend, and i'm pretty surprised the new UI options for missions are not available here, as i'm doing multiples runs i would really like having the ability to right clic and put set destination on entrance and exit stations...

Because it's a +10% damage bonus? The standard bonus layout is +5% damage plus something else, so the Condor essentially has "two" +5% damage bonuses. And don't forget the new role bonus.

A better question: why does the Condor only get a damage bonus to kinetic missiles? Turret damage bonuses apply to all ammo types. What happened to +10% kinetic, +5% other, like the Kestrel has?

With the new ore holds (which I like the idea of), I can no longer just double click the background of the station to get at my ore.

right-click, select ore hold, get ore, try to drag to items hanger, realize you can't have more than one window open, close ore hold, open item inventory, find ore hold in tree view, drag ore to items hanger, find ore has instead gone to the cargohold of one of your other ships in the ship hanger, locate ore by checking every ship, move ore to items hanger.

Maybe there should be a setting that determines what bay you open by double clicking on the station background. Oh wait, never mind, can't have a separate window for items hanger.