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Just before 1.2.1, I discovered some very odd graphic issues concerning missiles. I witnessed cruise missiles, shortly after launch, disappearing and flying past from behind the camera. I saw cruise missiles running a loop around the target before contact, and rouge missiles moving in a wild "zig-zag" motion after the target was no longer available. All this was accompanied by a strange lag, as if chunks of several seconds would pass all in an instant.

I have never seen anything like it before in gaming and thought it worth passing on.
I am running Win7 Ult Authentic on an ASUS M4N98TD EVO with msi N520GT MD2GD3 graphics.

Tool tip delay - thank you.

A job well done.

You see, that shows the inconsistency between how devs see the inventory versus how players see it. Players see inventory as a universal tool that is incorporated into everything they do, so they assume there should be a global setting in the escape menu.

Devs see inventory as a hammer... something you take out occasionally on your bi-annual "play EVE" day. Something you use so rarely that you'd hide the configuration for it not even in every inventory window but only "secondary" inventory windows.

No wonder it failed so badly, and continues to fail.

As a miner myself, I can't believe the amount of crying over this change. Basically CCP just gave us a big wet kiss and everybody's complaining about it. I don't understand it. The Mack is a hisec mining pimpmobile now...so much so that CCP may actually have to nerf it later. It gets near-Hulk yield and a godly ore bay to boot, with a decent tank as well. Even the lowly Procurer has a use-case now, instead of being an unwanted step-child.

The cargo-rig thing makes me roll my eyes. If you were cargo-rigging your Hulk, you get no pity from me: sacrificing tank and yield for cargo in a Hulk always was stupid. Just be thankful that a joyriding Goon didn't pop your paper-tank Hulk and remind yourself to tank properly in the future. If you like to live dangerously the Retriever is now the boat for you: a huge ore bay, good yield, three lows for MLU's, and a single mid for whatever. (You even get 3 rig slots, though I'm not sure why you'd bother rigging a Retriever.)

One of the interesting gameplay implications of the huge ore bay on the Ret/Mack is that it still doesn't make your haulers obsolete. If you refine your ore for sale or do manufacturing, you'll still need a hauler because the Ret/Mack's ore hold is for ore only. That's a pretty smart change IMO. It improves gameplay for miners, but doesn't accidentally ruin another ship-class (indys).

Has anyone had problems buying PLEX with dollars? I have a couple toons expiring today and just got paid so I bought a 2 PLEX pack and it hasn't shown up as redeemable after more than an hour where it's usually nearly instantaneous.

Sad to see that ore hold wasn't added to the ships' attributes even though the change was made in the description.

Jesus Christ, the whining.

Let me say it again: the Hulk didn't get nerfed; the other barges got buffed. Everything your Hulk did before, it can still do, and just as well (except for stupid things like carrying cargo, which you shouldn't have been doing in a Hulk anyway). Mining was always terribly unbalanced with the way things were before -- the Hulk rendered all the other hulls obsolete. That's not the case now in the role-based approach. It actually makes sense to buy several hulls depending on what you want to do with them. That's a good thing, both for the miners and for the EVE economy as a whole.

A Hulk is still the king of yield if you fit it properly and have the skills to use it and are using it for fleet ops. Fleet-use was always intended to be the niche for Hulks; CCP just made it official in this patch. People who flew Hulks solo were wasting the Hulk's superior yield and tank more often than not due to the silly-ass cargo fits.

If you were using your Hulk properly before the patch, then you can continue on as before without feeling any effect from the barge/exhumer changes at all. Most of the complainers were using their Hulks in a stupid way, and didn't read the patch notes closely enough to see what a great substitute the Mack is now. (Hell, even the much-cheaper Retriever is a pretty good option for hisec solo players now.)



If you have low exhumers skill, you probably shouldn't be flying a Hulk anyway, even before the patch. You'd spend way more on a Hulk than you'd ever make up in the marginal yield gain over a Covetor at low skills. It's like any other ship class in EVE: just because you can fly it doesn't mean you should fly it.

And again...still haven't touched these issues...


Yes, you can have Shift-clicked versions of the Item/Ships hangers. That is not the issue. The main 'station' inventory should default open to the items/ships...not a copy of your cargohold. Also, when doing this method, usually the 'main' window takes a higher priority than the Shift-clicked ones...so you have to dodge that window to get to the others, since dropping anything from your ship's shift-clicked cargo into your ships cargo in the main window is less than helpful when trying to undock again quickly.


Yes, there are halfway separate windows between 'space' and 'station', but if you close the 'space' one, you have to then 'open' it next time you are in station. The point was they need to have their OWN state of 'closed/open-ness' seperated for each one.
And, thanks for calling me and idiot w/o actually using the words...nice.

Also, everything that has suggested within just these 10 pages was suggested within 2 weeks of this thing turning up on SiSi. Just sayin. Especially the station corp hanger thing, why does it take so long to add the button back to the services section? (where there is a button to rent/unrent, were "corp hanger" button used to reside).

And about setting up the Shift-clicked windows to mirror what we had before this....attempting to do this occasionally causes the TREE to become permanently something like 5 pixels wide...needing to be resized every time one changes sessions in order to use or minimize it.

Speaking of mirroring old setup, can we please drop items into 'ships' and ships into 'items'....like we used to be able to?

I like it. Many times I type in a fragment of a name ( Im terrible at spelling, but usually can get part of a name right), and a zillion items show up. I got to scan through them, a process involving many many mouse actions. Now I just got to click once on the category and there it is.

Quick question - is the Skiff warpcore bonus removed?