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Halaima MinerBumping IPO - One TRILLION 206 Billion in shares sold

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Dom Arkaral
Slavers Union
#981 - 2017-01-20 04:02:52 UTC
EVE is a hobby for most of us... (also what happens in EVE stays in EVE)
Why so seriously butthurt if you don't even play the game??
Lmao

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Clockwork Robot
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#982 - 2017-01-20 04:39:35 UTC
Zaha Koto wrote:
Clockwork Robot wrote:
Zaha Koto wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Zaha Koto wrote:
The word 'investment' has an accepted meaning. There is absolutely nothing in this thread that relates to that accepted meaning.

The definition probably depends on what source you consult. If you for example look in wikipedia you find the following definition:

Investment is time, energy, or matter spent in the hope of future benefits actualized within a specified date or time frame.

In the case of the New Order of Highsec it is pretty obvious what the benefits are. The invested ISK goes directly into the betterment of Highsec and the restoration of a proper risk/reward situation from which everyone benefits in the end.

If people talk about investing in the school system or investing in a new car they don't expect direct monetary returns. The benefits of an investment come in many forms and that should be pretty obvious.

An investment in New Order shares is very similar to an investment in education or even an investment in the development of a third world nation. You have to look at the big picture to see why that is the case. Without the New Order, Highsec would be a wasteland of AFK hauling and mining. There would be almost no profit margin between trade hubs, since transport would be completely effort free and therefore meaningless because everyone could just ship his stuff with an AFK alt. The whole hauling business which do those things for cash would collapse. The ore prices would be completely destroyed since the market would be saturated with ore from all the risk free AFK mining with zero effort.

Apart from that, there is the whole miner equipment branch of the industry which directly benefits from the destruction of the miners and haulers which do not obey the Code. Let's quickly check the numbers to get a feeling of how much this industry profits from this investments.

If we look at the killboard stats of the elite PvP alliance CODE., we can see that roughly for every 1 ISK invested, 40 ISK of illegal mining and hauling equipment gets destroyed. So for every 1 ISK invested you create 40 ISK in demand on the mining equipment market. And that is only the obvious monetary benefit, all the other stuff like the ore prices, the hauling industry and the market profits are a lot harder to estimate.

Also let's not forget the non-monetary benefits like free education for miners and haulers and a better, healthier highsec and highsec community overall.

So as you can see, the benefits are objectively and verifiability astronomical and far beyond everything else you will find in this subforum. Not only that, but if you invest in New Order shares, you also get the warm feeling of being part of something greater than just you and to benefit not only your own wallet but the EVE community as a whole.

That is in essence why investing in New Order shares is the best investment you can make. You don't have to be jealous because it was our Supreme Protector of Highsec, Father of the New Order our Saviour James 315 who came up with it. It takes a very special man, a hero to look at the rotten state of Highsec and not to turn away immediately in disgust but instead to take on the monumental task of rescuing it and all it's citizen.

Praise James


You actually took the time to write this risible nonsense?



Yes. With the intent of baiting a response from you, which they got, and will now continue to fish for, since youve shown that you'll give them tasty chum.

Honestly, I thought you said you understood this.


As it ever occurred to you that I might be baiting Code and that I'm getting risible nonsensical posts from them by the bucket load. Nothing proves my point that this is not a Market Discussions thread more than the nonsense that Code apologists write trying to assert that it is. I uninstalled Eve Online some time ago and no longer play the game.
I've watched 2 films about Scientology recently. They are bad enough in real life I don't need that kind of stuff in a game.


Okay man, okay.
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
CODE.
#983 - 2017-01-20 06:23:22 UTC
Just try to calm down a bit and maybe read my post again if you have a clear mind. I know it is hard for most people to admit they where wrong in an ongoing discussion. I accept the complete absence of any rebuttal of my points as a silent admission.

gf

The CODE always wins, ALWAYS.
Zaha Koto
State War Academy
Caldari State
#984 - 2017-01-20 18:20:23 UTC
blah blah blah
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#985 - 2017-01-20 19:00:08 UTC
Some fun facts about our shareholder program:

1. Not a cult
2. Not a scam
3. An awesome investment for savvy businessmen and businesswomen
4. More new shareholders today and over 1 trillion 107 billion isk now!
5. OP UPDATED TO REFLECT ADDITIONAL PURCHASES
6. Smile
Chelian Dendrotoxin
Mamaroneck Trading Company
#986 - 2017-01-20 20:02:40 UTC
Is there any actual return on the investment other than tears? I'll be honest, I can't be bothered to read 50 pages of Flavor-Aid drinking and miner tears.
Zaha Koto
State War Academy
Caldari State
#987 - 2017-01-21 03:06:09 UTC
James 315 wrote:
Some fun facts about our shareholder program:

1. Not a cult
2. Not a scam
3. An awesome investment for savvy businessmen and businesswomen
4. More new shareholders today and over 1 trillion 107 billion isk now!
5. OP UPDATED TO REFLECT ADDITIONAL PURCHASES
6. Smile


1. yes it IS a cult
2. Yes it IS a scam
3. The worst example of the bastardisation of the English language I have ever seen.
4. Yet more suckers
5. Meh
Maldrech
Perkone
Caldari State
#988 - 2017-01-21 03:21:30 UTC
Zaha Koto wrote:
James 315 wrote:
Some fun facts about our shareholder program:

1. Not a cult
2. Not a scam
3. An awesome investment for savvy businessmen and businesswomen
4. More new shareholders today and over 1 trillion 107 billion isk now!
5. OP UPDATED TO REFLECT ADDITIONAL PURCHASES
6. Smile


1. yes it IS a cult
2. Yes it IS a scam
3. The worst example of the bastardisation of the English language I have ever seen.
4. Yet more suckers
5. Meh


Wouldn't call it a scam because people know what they are giving their money to. That being said would definitely call it a charity.
Zaha Koto
State War Academy
Caldari State
#989 - 2017-01-21 03:31:48 UTC
"Charity"

Are you mad bro?
Dom Arkaral
Slavers Union
#990 - 2017-01-21 03:48:16 UTC
Zaha Koto wrote:
"Charity"

Are you mad bro?

I doubt he is, but you are XD

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Zaha Koto
State War Academy
Caldari State
#991 - 2017-01-21 15:26:00 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Zaha Koto wrote:
"Charity"

Are you mad bro?

I doubt he is, but you are XD



Have you ever considered cosulting a psychiatrist

You appear to have an obsessive compulsion to reply to EVERY post I make with a derogatory reply. I can't recall EVER seeing you make a positive post or in fact EVER contributing anything useful.

See a doctor m8 you need help
James Zealot
Event Horizon Expeditionaries
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#992 - 2017-01-21 15:33:52 UTC
Chelian Dendrotoxin wrote:
Is there any actual return on the investment other than tears? I'll be honest, I can't be bothered to read 50 pages of Flavor-Aid drinking and miner tears.


This
Dom Arkaral
Slavers Union
#993 - 2017-01-21 21:53:16 UTC
Zaha Koto wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Zaha Koto wrote:
"Charity"

Are you mad bro?

I doubt he is, but you are XD



Have you ever considered cosulting a psychiatrist

You appear to have an obsessive compulsion to reply to EVERY post I make with a derogatory reply. I can't recall EVER seeing you make a positive post or in fact EVER contributing anything useful.

See a doctor m8 you need help

how about you buy shares or get out?
the nihilism is stronk XD

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Zaha Koto
State War Academy
Caldari State
#994 - 2017-01-22 09:13:06 UTC
The Last Word™
Luthor Ikkala
Nirvana of Phoenix
Fraternity.
#995 - 2017-01-22 11:22:57 UTC
Think this as good way to keeping demand up on certain mods and ships. How would you sell anything on market if ships doesnt get blown up. Market only works if people need to buy stuff from there. Yes i feel sorry for the lost un insured ships that are afk mining or that mine without any tank
Zaha Koto
State War Academy
Caldari State
#996 - 2017-01-22 18:50:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Zaha Koto
Luthor Ikkala wrote:
Think this as good way to keeping demand up on certain mods and ships. How would you sell anything on market if ships doesnt get blown up. Market only works if people need to buy stuff from there. Yes i feel sorry for the lost un insured ships that are afk mining or that mine without any tank


I'm having some real difficulty here.

James315 starts a thread where he purports to sell shares. I KNOW that he isn't selling shares because I sent off some isk for a share and I never received it.
So James315 is a liar. He's a serial liar. Everything he states in this thread is a lie. He is a BAREFACED liar.
This thread has nothing whatsoever to do with the Market

Ok so what is this thread about?
Well James315 tells people he's selling shares and when people send him isk he just trousers it.
Do people get shares for their isk? NO.
So what do they get for their isk? Remember that over a trillion isk has been sent atm. Well, actually they don't get anything for their isk.
Are their 'shares' saleable?
NO, Insofar as these purported shares don't exist then by definition they are not saleable.
Do these 'shares' have any value.? Something that doesn't exist doesn't have any value.
What has this got to do with the 'Market Discussions' forum?
Absolutely nothing at all.
There is zero connection between this crooked dishonest risible thread and the Market in Eve.
James Zealot
Event Horizon Expeditionaries
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#997 - 2017-01-22 19:06:31 UTC
Zaha Koto wrote:
Luthor Ikkala wrote:
Think this as good way to keeping demand up on certain mods and ships. How would you sell anything on market if ships doesnt get blown up. Market only works if people need to buy stuff from there. Yes i feel sorry for the lost un insured ships that are afk mining or that mine without any tank


I'm having some real difficulty here.

James315 starts a thread where he purports to sell shares. I KNOW that he isn't selling shares because I sent off some isk for a share and I never received it.
So James315 is a liar. He's a serial liar. Everything he states in this thread is a lie. He is a BAREFACED liar.
This thread has nothing whatsoever to do with the Market

Ok so what is this thread about?
Well James315 tells people he's selling shares and when people send him isk he just trousers it.
Do people get shares for their isk? NO.
So what do they get for their isk? Remember that over a trillion isk has been sent atm. Well, actually they don't get anything for their isk.
Are their 'shares' saleable?
NO, Insofar as these purported shares don't exist then by definition they are not saleable.
Do these 'shares' have any value.? Something that doesn't exist doesn't have any value.
What has this got to do with the 'Market Discussions' forum?
Absolutely nothing at all.
There is zero connection between this crooked dishonest risible thread and the Market in Eve.


Pretty sure most of the donations are there to support what they do. People just donate to that cause I believe. No one really cares lol
Zaha Koto
State War Academy
Caldari State
#998 - 2017-01-22 19:13:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Zaha Koto
James Zealot wrote:
Zaha Koto wrote:
Luthor Ikkala wrote:
Think this as good way to keeping demand up on certain mods and ships. How would you sell anything on market if ships doesnt get blown up. Market only works if people need to buy stuff from there. Yes i feel sorry for the lost un insured ships that are afk mining or that mine without any tank


I'm having some real difficulty here.

James315 starts a thread where he purports to sell shares. I KNOW that he isn't selling shares because I sent off some isk for a share and I never received it.
So James315 is a liar. He's a serial liar. Everything he states in this thread is a lie. He is a BAREFACED liar.
This thread has nothing whatsoever to do with the Market

Ok so what is this thread about?
Well James315 tells people he's selling shares and when people send him isk he just trousers it.
Do people get shares for their isk? NO.
So what do they get for their isk? Remember that over a trillion isk has been sent atm. Well, actually they don't get anything for their isk.
Are their 'shares' saleable?
NO, Insofar as these purported shares don't exist then by definition they are not saleable.
Do these 'shares' have any value.? Something that doesn't exist doesn't have any value.
What has this got to do with the 'Market Discussions' forum?
Absolutely nothing at all.
There is zero connection between this crooked dishonest risible thread and the Market in Eve.


Pretty sure most of the donations are there to support what they do. People just donate to that cause I believe. No one really cares lol


What exactly is the connection between my post and your reply?

None whatsoever Sad James315 is not asking for donations ( which by definition have no value ) he's selling "shares" which are supposed to have value except that James315s' shares are worthless
James Zealot
Event Horizon Expeditionaries
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#999 - 2017-01-22 19:15:31 UTC
Zaha Koto wrote:
James Zealot wrote:
Zaha Koto wrote:
Luthor Ikkala wrote:
Think this as good way to keeping demand up on certain mods and ships. How would you sell anything on market if ships doesnt get blown up. Market only works if people need to buy stuff from there. Yes i feel sorry for the lost un insured ships that are afk mining or that mine without any tank


I'm having some real difficulty here.

James315 starts a thread where he purports to sell shares. I KNOW that he isn't selling shares because I sent off some isk for a share and I never received it.
So James315 is a liar. He's a serial liar. Everything he states in this thread is a lie. He is a BAREFACED liar.
This thread has nothing whatsoever to do with the Market

Ok so what is this thread about?
Well James315 tells people he's selling shares and when people send him isk he just trousers it.
Do people get shares for their isk? NO.
So what do they get for their isk? Remember that over a trillion isk has been sent atm. Well, actually they don't get anything for their isk.
Are their 'shares' saleable?
NO, Insofar as these purported shares don't exist then by definition they are not saleable.
Do these 'shares' have any value.? Something that doesn't exist doesn't have any value.
What has this got to do with the 'Market Discussions' forum?
Absolutely nothing at all.
There is zero connection between this crooked dishonest risible thread and the Market in Eve.


Pretty sure most of the donations are there to support what they do. People just donate to that cause I believe. No one really cares lol


What exactly is the connection between my post and your reply?

None whatsoever Sad James315 is not asking for donations ( which by definition have no value ) he's selling "shares" which are supposed to have value except that James315s' shares are worthless


Right, I know that. I think most know that as well.
Zaha Koto
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1000 - 2017-01-22 19:24:13 UTC
James Zealot wrote:
Zaha Koto wrote:
James Zealot wrote:
Zaha Koto wrote:
Luthor Ikkala wrote:
Think this as good way to keeping demand up on certain mods and ships. How would you sell anything on market if ships doesnt get blown up. Market only works if people need to buy stuff from there. Yes i feel sorry for the lost un insured ships that are afk mining or that mine without any tank


I'm having some real difficulty here.

James315 starts a thread where he purports to sell shares. I KNOW that he isn't selling shares because I sent off some isk for a share and I never received it.
So James315 is a liar. He's a serial liar. Everything he states in this thread is a lie. He is a BAREFACED liar.
This thread has nothing whatsoever to do with the Market

Ok so what is this thread about?
Well James315 tells people he's selling shares and when people send him isk he just trousers it.
Do people get shares for their isk? NO.
So what do they get for their isk? Remember that over a trillion isk has been sent atm. Well, actually they don't get anything for their isk.
Are their 'shares' saleable?
NO, Insofar as these purported shares don't exist then by definition they are not saleable.
Do these 'shares' have any value.? Something that doesn't exist doesn't have any value.
What has this got to do with the 'Market Discussions' forum?
Absolutely nothing at all.
There is zero connection between this crooked dishonest risible thread and the Market in Eve.


Pretty sure most of the donations are there to support what they do. People just donate to that cause I believe. No one really cares lol


What exactly is the connection between my post and your reply?

None whatsoever Sad James315 is not asking for donations ( which by definition have no value ) he's selling "shares" which are supposed to have value except that James315s' shares are worthless


Right, I know that. I think most know that as well.


So you 'know' that James315s' shares are worthless and not worth the paper they're not written on?

If that is so I think it's a first for this thread Big smileBig smileBig smile