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Null Sec Care Packages

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Lambert Simnel
PWLS Enterprises
#1 - 2012-08-06 01:19:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Lambert Simnel
I was reading about the use of mineral compression to manufacture capital ships in null sec when I came across the notion of 'null sec care packages' (where a ship BPC and the modules to reprocess/manufacture it are sold as one package).

I know that there are a couple of corporations offering mineral compression/capital ship manufacturing services. However, I wondered whether there was still a demand for these packages at battleship/battlecruiser level (or below) if my corporation were to start producing them (unfortunately I don't think we would be unable to meet the needs of a corporation requiring regular large scale capital/titan production yet).

So my questions are:

a) Is there a demand for 'care packages' of this kind or is there only an interest in the modules?
b) What ship types would be most wanted (I have assumed Drakes and Hurricanes but are there any others)?
c) Would corporations want an end-to-end service i.e. do they expect the T1 modules reprocessed and the ship manufactured for them in null sec or would they be happy to take delivery of 'care packages' in high-sec and take care of the rest?
d) What kind of price would corporations be willing to pay for these packages (and please don't say below Jita buy price)?

Please mail me seperately if you have a view or are interested and you don't want to post publicly on the forum!
Rusty Trades
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-08-06 04:10:44 UTC
No, there is no demand for such a service for single ships.

No they wouldn't want you to assemble them onsite cause that would mean letting you use their outposts.

There is a demand for compressed modules, but it's usually en mass for supercapital construction.

Small stuff like BC's either gets moved packed via JF/Carrier, or compressed modules are moved en mass and hundreds of ships are built, not one.

Sorry, no market for what your thinking of.
Lambert Simnel
PWLS Enterprises
#3 - 2012-08-06 05:06:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Lambert Simnel
Rusty Trades wrote:
No, there is no demand for such a service for single ships.

No they wouldn't want you to assemble them onsite cause that would mean letting you use their outposts.

There is a demand for compressed modules, but it's usually en mass for supercapital construction.

Small stuff like BC's either gets moved packed via JF/Carrier, or compressed modules are moved en mass and hundreds of ships are built, not one.

Sorry, no market for what your thinking of.



Thanks for the post but just to clarify a couple of points.

The service wouldn't necessarily provide single ships - we would supply compressed modules and BPCs (although the purchase of these would be entirely optional) for as many ships as possible on a weekly/monthly basis subject to demand. The price would be on a discounted basis subject to quantity (so an order for a 'package' of 1000 Drakes would cost less than the 'package' for a single ship and so on). Going further I could even offer 'packs' for multiples of certain ship types (so 10, 50,100, 250, 500 etc) if there was demand.

Not having to assemble ships onsite would certainly suit me given the logistics of that side of the operation. However I mentioned this because there are some services that offer this (see here - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=6918)
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-08-06 19:29:02 UTC
The care packages are mostly for the frugal individual nullsec industrialist, as a single battlecrusier plus fittings, can fit in to a single giant secure container and be shipped easily by jump freighter or transported by a transport ship.

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin

shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-08-06 22:24:05 UTC
what Rusty Trades said,
your asking your potencial customers to pay you for something that they could have will less effort, faster, without wasting resources (prod. lines). Also all your customers need to have prod efficnency V + the required T2 skills for the mods and the roles to use the production lines.

The thing with titans and Supers is tottaly diffrent. It only worked because they simply could not be constructed in High sec and the business was more or less exlcusivly between industrialists and not PVPers wich across the board dont like building things.

tl;dr
simply not gona work...not even worth trying


Mortimer Civeri wrote:
The care packages are mostly for the frugal individual nullsec industrialist, as a single battlecrusier plus fittings, can fit in to a single giant secure container and be shipped easily by jump freighter or transported by a transport ship.


you cant fit GSC in JF as such and 0.0 Industrialsts would most likely have the required BPO`s anyway.

shar'ra phone home

Lambert Simnel
PWLS Enterprises
#6 - 2012-08-09 01:52:02 UTC
Thanks for all the responses. I've had some interest from corporations so far so if anyone else is interested please mail me.

I'll also consider producing T1 modules for one off capital/titan production at wholesale prices as well.