EVE General Discussion

It's not about EVE players thinking they're superior, it's nerds in general thinking they're superior. Nerds have been beaten down, spit on and reminded how worthless they are for most of their life - despite what Revenge of the Nerds would tell you.

Then, along comes the internet, and all of a sudden nerds gain anonymity and the protection their monitors provide. Some of the bitterest and most jaded of the nerds ended up playing EVE, for obvious reasons, and since they no longer have the filter of a bullies fist in their mouth they lash out at other nerds in a fit of self-loathing.

I pity the nerd.

Because this forum seems to be full of 6 week old idiots who post crap like this and expect to get a serious answer from bitter vets who frankly have seen it all before.

And if you're going to complain that you're not really a 6 week old newbie at least try and be a bit more f@@@ing obvious with your alt name.

I found myself name dropping Eve in another MMO I'm trying and I'm not sure why ... other than the fact their egos could use taming.

But giving the OP some thought, I say:

No Skill?

1) Try developing a successful corporation, better yet an alliance, and keep it going for one, three or five years.
2) Beat the psych ops of a spy who has infiltrated your corp.
3) Own local or at least keep up with and/or affect it, or ignore it altogether.
4) Financially support yourself in the game without opening your wallet.
5) FC a fleet/gang to victory -- more than once -- and against the odds.
6) Don't emo-quit Eve ever.
7) Figure out how to not let an over-powered or extended war dec ruin your game time.
8) Fit an awesome PvP ship without help.
9) Play Eve for a year and keep a sense of humor.
10) Ruin someone else's day. (for evil players).

All of these things and more require skill. And, I don't claim mastery of them.

As an aside, I'm on a quest to find an MMO that remotely matches Eve in terms of skill, variety, metagaming and its unique addictive quality that challenges you to not be your own worst enemy. (e.g., Did I really fall for that scam or leroy that hauler into low-sec?)

Do I expect to find such an MMO? Not today. Do I love Eve? Not always.

Do I think I"m superior? Only when playing Civilization and when I'm around other gamers who have better hand-eye co-ordination than I, but lack signs of other useful qualities that would serve them in life. This happens both in and out of Eve, by the way.

Set me right, EVE forum dwellers, what makes you superior?

I see it all the time, players claiming superiority because of the game they play, but in EVE the level delusions of grandeur are far beyond anything I've seen.

To me this seems like a fallacy of logic.

For one thing, it doesn't take any special skill to play EVE. You don't need twitch skills like you would in a first person shooter game and you don't need macro-ability or micro-ability or actions per minute like you would in an RTS game. All that is required is knowledge, know what weapons to use, know what you can kill and can't kill, and know what can kill you. Copy a popular fit and listen to your FC and you are as effective as you can be. Your personal skills as a gamer are totally irrelevant for the most part. Know what direction to fly and know game mechanics to succeed. As far as I can tell, there is nothing that really takes skill in EVE, all that is needed is knowledge on what to do, which any simpleton can acquire over time. You could even argue that WoW takes more skill than EVE. So why is it that so many EVE players think they are so special?

Personally I see EVE as a knowledge-based game, not a skill-based game. If anything, this is the kind of game people would be comfortable with after getting sick of losing in skill-based games. I think EVE is a great game, but there no reason to pretend like because we play it, we are somehow smarter or more hardcore than other gamers. There are skill based games that are more hardcore than EVE and require more thought.

Set me right, EVE forum dwellers, what makes you superior?