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Doc Severide
Doomheim
#281 - 2012-08-25 19:12:20 UTC
Osabojo wrote:
You know, sometimes I just have to go to the bathroom. And maybe I'm going to be in there a while. I'd like to cloak my ship while I do that. Is that okay with you people??

Absolutely !!!
Ghost of Truth
Mad Dawg Industries
#282 - 2012-08-25 20:36:24 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Came in expecting own current victim of AFK cloaking. Left with nothing but my own hands to satisfy myself ...

Victim you say?I thought AFK Cloaking doesn't do anything...
Ghost of Truth
Mad Dawg Industries
#283 - 2012-08-25 20:37:38 UTC
Signal11th wrote:
FFS not this again, nothing wrong with cloaks, cloaking or sitting there cloaked for intel purposes.



Except no risk, but whatever
Ghost of Truth
Mad Dawg Industries
#284 - 2012-08-25 20:52:55 UTC
Doc Severide wrote:
Osabojo wrote:
You know, sometimes I just have to go to the bathroom. And maybe I'm going to be in there a while. I'd like to cloak my ship while I do that. Is that okay with you people??

Absolutely !!!


Sometimes, in 4000 fights I need to go to the bathroom also.Maybe we should put a 'Pause Everyone' button or even better cloak in all ships!
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#285 - 2012-08-25 21:19:59 UTC
Ghost of Truth wrote:
Signal11th wrote:
FFS not this again, nothing wrong with cloaks, cloaking or sitting there cloaked for intel purposes.

Except no risk, but whatever

Yeah the riskless PVEers. Gotta add some risk to em Lol

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Adalynne Rohks
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#286 - 2012-08-25 23:37:21 UTC
I must say... this thread has inspired me. Now, when I grow up, I want to be an afk cloaker/bomber/harrasser. Until I saw this thread, I hadn't really considered all the posibilities it could open up for me.
Omega Sunset
Black.Omega
#287 - 2012-08-26 00:30:35 UTC
Apo Lyptica wrote:
I think we pretty much agree that afk cloakers are a problem.

We? There are wondrous drugs to help lessen the effects of schizophrenia these days.
*cloak on*

—Ω—
Garreth Vlox
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#288 - 2012-08-26 01:34:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Garreth Vlox
Via Shivon wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:


By definition afk activities are impossible. The reason people interpret "AFK Cloaker" as "cloaker" is because of the dishonesty of nullbears. AFK cloakers are a none issue, they pose no threat. They are literally incapable of doing anything. There is no discussion to be had about them. The thing that causes the tears is the fact that little terrible nullbears don't have free, infallible intel to tell them if they are 100% safe or not. Well tough god damn ****. That's part of living in nullsec. Deal with it or go back to hello kitty hisec.



wow so much smartasses...
yeah i can understand how cool it must be in a game, to be 100% invisible, to be 100% invincible with just 1 high slot mod for zero costs using it.

ok afk cloaker is not the problem - because afk is afk


permacloaker are a problem with 0 risk, just to **** off other ppl playing eve and 99% of the time they even are afk and should be kickt from the server after 5 minutes.
other thing would be a tool (ship, modul, structure) to detect them if they dont move


TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Cloaker whine threads make me respect the hisec bears more than nullbears. At least the hisec bears are honest about their risk aversion, the nullbears will never admit that they aren't h4rdc0re pr0s living in dangerous nullsec and are in fact some of the biggest and greediest cowards and crybabies going. If you want the rewards of living in nullsec, deal with the risks. That includes not knowing what that neutral in local is up to, and if he's a threat. Stop crying for CCP to turn nullsec into hell0.0kitty


The reward ratting vs L4 mission is what?
The reward mining abc vs veldspar is what?
...so OK go move mining to 0.0, cut the L4 missions by 75% income, than we are fine and you will never ever read anymore whining about a cloaky in a system afk blocking. we have the risk AND the reward.

Nobody is talking abaut hellokitty, getting killt bye fleets, solo ships whatever. but afk alts blocking systems is bullshit


http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14304873

I'd be mad if a bomber raped my orca too.

EDIT* you had small drones in your drone bay and you still died to an SB? O.O

The LULZ Boat.
Red Teufel
Calamitous-Intent
#289 - 2012-08-26 01:47:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Red Teufel
maybe you should upgrade from the medieval serfdom to a more free trade democratic form of government. that way you wont be stuck to 1 system. but hey what do i know...

like say you own a hug giant swath of space that needs to be rented out. provide a form of tax. of course tax the middle class a **** load. then add a decent homeowners tax on the offices ;)
Frying Doom
#290 - 2012-08-26 02:39:21 UTC
Garreth Vlox wrote:
Via Shivon wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:


By definition afk activities are impossible. The reason people interpret "AFK Cloaker" as "cloaker" is because of the dishonesty of nullbears. AFK cloakers are a none issue, they pose no threat. They are literally incapable of doing anything. There is no discussion to be had about them. The thing that causes the tears is the fact that little terrible nullbears don't have free, infallible intel to tell them if they are 100% safe or not. Well tough god damn ****. That's part of living in nullsec. Deal with it or go back to hello kitty hisec.



wow so much smartasses...
yeah i can understand how cool it must be in a game, to be 100% invisible, to be 100% invincible with just 1 high slot mod for zero costs using it.

ok afk cloaker is not the problem - because afk is afk


permacloaker are a problem with 0 risk, just to **** off other ppl playing eve and 99% of the time they even are afk and should be kickt from the server after 5 minutes.
other thing would be a tool (ship, modul, structure) to detect them if they dont move


TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Cloaker whine threads make me respect the hisec bears more than nullbears. At least the hisec bears are honest about their risk aversion, the nullbears will never admit that they aren't h4rdc0re pr0s living in dangerous nullsec and are in fact some of the biggest and greediest cowards and crybabies going. If you want the rewards of living in nullsec, deal with the risks. That includes not knowing what that neutral in local is up to, and if he's a threat. Stop crying for CCP to turn nullsec into hell0.0kitty


The reward ratting vs L4 mission is what?
The reward mining abc vs veldspar is what?
...so OK go move mining to 0.0, cut the L4 missions by 75% income, than we are fine and you will never ever read anymore whining about a cloaky in a system afk blocking. we have the risk AND the reward.

Nobody is talking abaut hellokitty, getting killt bye fleets, solo ships whatever. but afk alts blocking systems is bullshit


http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14304873

I'd be mad if a bomber raped my orca too.

EDIT* you had small drones in your drone bay and you still died to an SB? O.O

Holy crap we have a new definition for the stupidity of Null bears, an orca slaughtered by a single SB while he has, wait for it wait for it, no real tank and cargo expanders.

Didn't this guy read his own alliance threads about stupid miners who don't bother to tank a ship and then run to the forums and whine about it.

Hell that kill is the funniest thing I have seen in a long time.

So not only does not not realize that the markets are player run, the fact that destroying Hi-sec income as he suggested would destroy the game but to top it all off he is the poster boy for the exact people his alliance comes to the forum and complain about.

CCP really should do a spotlight on this guy: Spot light #5 Via Shivon an Exercise in Failure.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Dersk
Perkone
Caldari State
#291 - 2012-08-26 02:43:01 UTC
Garreth Vlox wrote:

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14304873

I'd be mad if a bomber raped my orca too.


That was a awox, by the way.
Garreth Vlox
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#292 - 2012-08-26 02:45:01 UTC
Dersk wrote:
Garreth Vlox wrote:

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14304873

I'd be mad if a bomber raped my orca too.


That was a awox, by the way.

Its still awesome and its still funny that a guy in GOONS the alliance that was funding suicide ganks on untanked indy ships died horribly in an indy ship with no tank to a single stealth bomber WHILE he had small drones in his drone bay

The LULZ Boat.
lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#293 - 2012-08-26 02:50:13 UTC
Here in wh space we don't have these kind of problems

Spaceprincess

People who put passwords on char bazaar Eveboards are the worst.
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#294 - 2012-08-26 02:56:12 UTC
lanyaie wrote:
Here in wh space we don't have these kind of problems


I'm hoping you mean you don't have idiots like that orca pilot in your system. Because I've seen plenty of w-bears, and even killed a few in a solo bomber. Acually waited 2 hours for a dude dual-boxing domis to come back and salvage his wrecks, which he did. -1 Noctis, + lots o' loot for me.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
yopparai
ASTARTES CORP
Hashashin Cartel
#295 - 2012-08-26 03:04:44 UTC
Apo Lyptica wrote:
I think we pretty much agree that afk cloakers are a problem. So how about this-



No most people understand that someone who is afk (away from keyboard) is no threat or problem at all.

The problem is your aversion to risk.

Yopp
Garresh
Mackies Raiders
Wild Geese.
#296 - 2012-08-26 03:21:31 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
also in wormholes dscanning is actually helpful because, you see, probes show up on dscan

a cloaked bomber warping between 100% scan signatures doesn't


Just a small nitpick, but like 80% of the sites people run in w-space are anoms. No probes, no early warning. Never stopped anyone from running them.

This Space Intentionally Left Blank
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#297 - 2012-08-26 03:28:44 UTC
Honestly, this whole afk cloaking camp thing sounds almost like afk mining, but of tears.

However, you don't run the "risk" (har har) or some gankalysts getting you because, surprise, you're cloaked !

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Ghazu
#298 - 2012-08-26 03:30:13 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Garreth Vlox wrote:
Via Shivon wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:


By definition afk activities are impossible. The reason people interpret "AFK Cloaker" as "cloaker" is because of the dishonesty of nullbears. AFK cloakers are a none issue, they pose no threat. They are literally incapable of doing anything. There is no discussion to be had about them. The thing that causes the tears is the fact that little terrible nullbears don't have free, infallible intel to tell them if they are 100% safe or not. Well tough god damn ****. That's part of living in nullsec. Deal with it or go back to hello kitty hisec.



wow so much smartasses...
yeah i can understand how cool it must be in a game, to be 100% invisible, to be 100% invincible with just 1 high slot mod for zero costs using it.

ok afk cloaker is not the problem - because afk is afk


permacloaker are a problem with 0 risk, just to **** off other ppl playing eve and 99% of the time they even are afk and should be kickt from the server after 5 minutes.
other thing would be a tool (ship, modul, structure) to detect them if they dont move


TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Cloaker whine threads make me respect the hisec bears more than nullbears. At least the hisec bears are honest about their risk aversion, the nullbears will never admit that they aren't h4rdc0re pr0s living in dangerous nullsec and are in fact some of the biggest and greediest cowards and crybabies going. If you want the rewards of living in nullsec, deal with the risks. That includes not knowing what that neutral in local is up to, and if he's a threat. Stop crying for CCP to turn nullsec into hell0.0kitty


The reward ratting vs L4 mission is what?
The reward mining abc vs veldspar is what?
...so OK go move mining to 0.0, cut the L4 missions by 75% income, than we are fine and you will never ever read anymore whining about a cloaky in a system afk blocking. we have the risk AND the reward.

Nobody is talking abaut hellokitty, getting killt bye fleets, solo ships whatever. but afk alts blocking systems is bullshit


http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14304873

I'd be mad if a bomber raped my orca too.

EDIT* you had small drones in your drone bay and you still died to an SB? O.O

Holy crap we have a new definition for the stupidity of Null bears, an orca slaughtered by a single SB while he has, wait for it wait for it, no real tank and cargo expanders.

Didn't this guy read his own alliance threads about stupid miners who don't bother to tank a ship and then run to the forums and whine about it.

Hell that kill is the funniest thing I have seen in a long time.

So not only does not not realize that the markets are player run, the fact that destroying Hi-sec income as he suggested would destroy the game but to top it all off he is the poster boy for the exact people his alliance comes to the forum and complain about.

CCP really should do a spotlight on this guy: Spot light #5 Via Shivon an Exercise in Failure.


Afk cloaking, working as intended.

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#299 - 2012-08-28 08:48:41 UTC
Garreth Vlox wrote:
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14304873

I'd be mad if a bomber raped my orca too.

EDIT* you had small drones in your drone bay and you still died to an SB? O.O


Wow. How on earth can you lose an orca to a single stealthbomber when you have two sets of combat drones right there... it's not as if you wouldn't have had ample time to realise whats happening and deploy them. A single sb picking away at the structure on an orca...
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#300 - 2012-08-28 08:54:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Katran Luftschreck
Apo Lyptica wrote:
I think we pretty much agree that afk cloakers are a problem.


We do?

I wonder if people realize that the cloaking obsession is a very obvious direct result of every frikkin' nullsec alliance out there having a "NBSI" policy? And that AFK Cloaking may just be their way getting back at them for putting a permanent moat of bot using gatecamps throughout nullsec?

Dickery - it's a vicious cycle.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0