EVE General Discussion

That's not a gain for the cloaker, it's a lose for the guy deciding not to rat/mine etc. Not the same thing.

Also being AFK in a ship cloaked, means no activity.

Also please answer me this question. Whilst someone is AFK, what game mechanic are they using to interact with you?

i see what you are going for here and it's a catch 22

one thing is the Psychological Warfare. I may not have a lot of firepower, but if I want to be annoying, I'll go put a cloaky in the system of people who annoy me as well. I may not be able to blow up a ship, but I can temporarily make those ratters and miners paranoid enough that they will just stay docked up. Because, you know, some of those nullbears are equally risk adverse as the high-sec carebears. And it's fun to mess with their heads.

Additionally, I have 5 accounts and can run them all at once on 4 monitors. these recon alts I have are very useful for surveillance while I goof around with my other toons. So while one account may be not flying around or chatting. It certainly is "doing something" for me and doing something to those it impacts mentally. So technically, since the cloaky is providing a role and service to me, that character IS playing the game. Just because you think they are NOT doing something doesn't make it necessarily true.

Anything that a cloaky can do to you, if you know who it belongs to, you can equally do it to them. AND why should SOV holding power-blocs feel completely safe? What you are suggesting would just make their lives easier and less risky. You might feel differently someday when your perspective changes and you might actually say "geez, this is very useful. i cannot believe I was trying to change this"

the #1 reason why this should stay the way it is. RECON, is boring as all get out. It is a role that should be reserved to an active alt that you can run along with your main. I cannot imagine a player, who only has one account, that would actually want to sit around and watch gates and stations for hours on end, while their buddies make isk and have fun. It's a mobile camera. It's there to observe. now if that cloaky is part of a fleet.....that changes the whole scenario and makes things quite deadly.

the important thing to remember is that who you may think is AFK may not actually be AFK. So because you think they are doesn't make it true. Do you think CCP is going to send convo's to every reported AFK cloaky to see if they are there? If i am a good scout, you can guarantee I'm not going to be responding to any personal convo's or messages unless it's from CCP. Just sayin you cannot prove a suspicion when you have no evidence.

So instead of "I didn't want it anyway" you're gonna go with "It's already replaced"? How about not using a cliche to brush off the reason for this cry thread?

Dude, the reason for posting on this thread is that i been flying through 15 systems, all of them have the same guys cloaked for the last couple days almost 23hrs a day. Not a kill done by a guy i saw blue several weeks ago, they were just a roaming gang not an AFK cloaker. Try to have some synapsis between your ****** neurons, will ya?

We can all play the same game, i can go and **** my enemies gameplay too. Thats not the point.

Thats exactly the point. go find his house and **** on his couch if you don't like that he is doing it to you, irritate their corp mates till they tell them to leave. Fight chaos and paranoia with more of the same instead of trying to get cloakys nerfed the same way miners got barges buffed. Stop crying and go ******* do something about it.

I've used that tactic to get AFK cloakers out of null systems, it makes you look like a ****, but this game wasn't built around people sitting in the corner and crying until CCP came over and fixed the thing that one person hated most about this game, it was built around people learning to counter what the other guy did.

Nope

Better idea, and this coming from a newbie. Local only displays people with a 1 minute delay after entering system, and if you don't activate a non- cloak module/change heading/do something for 15 minutes, you disappear from local. Note, you could use this to your advantage with a cloak by cloaking then waiting out the 15 mins so you disppear and can wait for ppl to show up in system.

If they were in station the whiners could station camp him or at least notice the moment he undocks via an alt.

With an afk cloaker they don't know when to run like cockroaches with the light turned on.

So yeah this thread is yet another good reason to just let cloakers not appear on local. They can't see him, therefore they don't know he is there. The upside is of course more PvP in Null and that will cause mineral prices to rise as the macks get destroyed in Null.

Then we wouldn't have one of these forum posts every month and it would get rid of the threads whining about the price of null minerals as well..