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Doomheim
#81 - 2012-08-03 23:53:27 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Apolleneous wrote:
Linux is already far more ubiquitous than Microsoft in a number of different areas, and is a far more stable platform for almost any type of computing (this is why most supercomputers today run Linux) , so why be so closed minded in thinking that Linux may not be used in gaming? Quit being a drone, and start thinking outside the box, at least a bit. I for one will welcome the change, and if CCP is smart they will too.


linux running on large computing clusters and lamp stacks running on $500 rackmount boxes is clearly indicative of 2015 being the definite year of the linux desktop


You misspelled that goonie.

It's "The Year of The Linux Desktop™"
Pankas Carter
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#82 - 2012-08-03 23:56:06 UTC
Alexzandvar Douglass wrote:
I like Origin better than steam, shoot me, but sometimes steam is a buggy piece of ****.


Origin would be OK if it would stop spamming me to buy games I already own every time I log in.

But I'm far too vested in Steam to just drop it. I own over 200 titles.

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Alexzandvar Douglass
Motiveless Malignity
Deepwater Hooligans
#83 - 2012-08-04 00:00:59 UTC
Pankas Carter wrote:
Alexzandvar Douglass wrote:
I like Origin better than steam, shoot me, but sometimes steam is a buggy piece of ****.


Origin would be OK if it would stop spamming me to buy games I already own every time I log in.

But I'm far too vested in Steam to just drop it. I own over 200 titles.


Don't get me wrong, steam is less money grabby with great sales and what not, but half the time I will load up a game that will not work or I will need to screw around with it with little to no support to get it to work properly.
Blane Xero
The Firestorm Cartel
#84 - 2012-08-04 00:18:52 UTC
I'll never understand people who own computers for Gaming and complain when you have to troubleshoot issues. I would say it comes with the territory, but then people would just claim it is no excuse.

The short of it is, stop blaming Steam for when games don't work. I've had numerous issues in the past that, without the steam forums [One of the largest and greatest resources for troubleshooting current games] I would have had much more trouble finding out what was causing some small errors that took me all of 2 minutes to perform once discovered and then have never needed to touch again. Very few times has it been something directly steams fault, and for the two or three times it has been [and has still been fixable, easily] I can forgive them thanks to the Client Files Validation feature.

My only gripe is how they handle offline mode, for which there is really no excuse, but the steam hate just baffles me. Even more so do the people who now prefer Origin over Steam. You lot disgust me.

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Spurty
#85 - 2012-08-04 01:46:39 UTC
Back in the day of pcs you had to be slightly clever to work out how to use them.

This meant the chaff was left mashing buttons with arcade games while the rest of us shot thargoids and went mental trying to dock without a docking computer.

These days pcs come pre-built with the OS already installed.

What a disaster this has been

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Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#86 - 2012-08-04 02:00:43 UTC
Nex apparatu5 wrote:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f4/Wikimedia_OS_share_pie_chart.png

Yeah, that about says it all.


10 years ago there would have been a lot more blue in that chart. Apple is slowly gnawing away at Microsoft's market share.
Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#87 - 2012-08-04 02:04:06 UTC
Taranius De Consolville wrote:
Also

No company would mass produce LINUX based machines as they would not sell


Um, you do know it's the same hardware right?
Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#88 - 2012-08-04 02:11:05 UTC
Corvus Borealis wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
Hey guys, 2 multibillion dollar giant companies are just going to up and vanish overnight, you heard it here first, this prophet of industry couldn't possibly be wrong.

Nokia.

Was worth hunders of billions.

Now? less than 6 billion euros..


Cellphones are disposable.

Operating systems have their claws deep into IT infrastructure. MS won't go away overnight because there are so many legacy systems that need Windows and Office APIs.

Microsoft is more likely to go the way of IBM.
Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#89 - 2012-08-04 02:16:15 UTC
Taranius De Consolville wrote:
But as home pcs, it will NEVER been main stream because EACH user would have to CREATE there own desktop


Say what?
Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#90 - 2012-08-04 02:34:15 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Apolleneous wrote:
Linux is already far more ubiquitous than Microsoft in a number of different areas, and is a far more stable platform for almost any type of computing (this is why most supercomputers today run Linux) , so why be so closed minded in thinking that Linux may not be used in gaming? Quit being a drone, and start thinking outside the box, at least a bit. I for one will welcome the change, and if CCP is smart they will too.


linux running on large computing clusters and lamp stacks running on $500 rackmount boxes is clearly indicative of 2015 being the definite year of the linux desktop


Yeah, I can't see it either. Steam is going Linux, because Linux is all that's left. They are about to become the next WordPerfect and they know it. Microsoft have a long history of pissing all over software vendors who developed for the Windows market. Anyone remember WordPerfect? Borland? Sybase? Lotus?

The on-line app markets for Consoles, iOS, Android and OSX are already well established, and the Windows app markets will be sewn up pretty soon.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#91 - 2012-08-04 02:42:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Spurty wrote:
Back in the day of pcs you had to be slightly clever to work out how to use them.

This meant the chaff was left mashing buttons with arcade games while the rest of us shot thargoids and went mental trying to dock without a docking computer.

These days pcs come pre-built with the OS already installed.

What a disaster this has been
…but then again, computer games in the 1970s — before that horrible change happened — weren't all that exciting.

You can only hunt the wumpus so many times before figuring out how to map out an icosahedron.
King Rothgar
Deadly Solutions
#92 - 2012-08-04 02:48:17 UTC
I use linux at work, I've also dabbled in OSX and guess what, I like windows best. Everyone loves to bad mouth microsoft for **** releases but all you have to do is look at their competition to understand why ~90% computers use windows. It's been well known that windows 8 will be a flop just like vista was. It's simply the microsoft OS cycle. They alternate between good and fail with each release. Nothing new here.

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Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#93 - 2012-08-04 02:49:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarsus Zateki
Anya Ohaya wrote:

Microsoft have a long history of pissing all over software vendors who developed for the Windows market. Anyone remember WordPerfect? Borland? Sybase? Lotus?


As a developer that does a lot of work in Windows, I have to admit this bit does **** me off. Microsoft frequently competes with its own costumers. Often times offering a price no other for-profit business can match; free.

Anya Ohaya wrote:

The on-line app markets for Consoles, iOS, Android and OSX are already well established, and the Windows app markets will be sewn up pretty soon.


Even this will end up a moot issue with web browsers continually gaining popularly as application hosts. No need to worry about platform differences and dependencies when the only "operating system" you care about speaks Javascript, HTML and CSS. Other than browser differences of course.

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Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#94 - 2012-08-04 02:56:49 UTC
King Rothgar wrote:
I use linux at work, I've also dabbled in OSX and guess what, I like windows best. Everyone loves to bad mouth microsoft for **** releases but all you have to do is look at their competition to understand why ~90% computers use windows. It's been well known that windows 8 will be a flop just like vista was. It's simply the microsoft OS cycle. They alternate between good and fail with each release. Nothing new here.


Given the choice I would develop for Windows exclusively. Assuming you're not creating an application that needs to count clock cycles or use ever last bit of memory, technologies like the .NET Framework, WCF, WPF, and Direct3D make developing new software a breeze.

Its not even the ease of creating new applications under Windows; there's a definite difference in the feel of your work, like you're actually having fun doing it.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.