EVE General Discussion

I find it hard to believe that the reason the Brutix and Hyperion are imbalanced is because they don't give enough armor rep bonuses.. They're not being used because they don't have a good role, they're impractical.

Good solo fighters/small gang fighters - maybe - but honestly how often is a Brutix fielded over a Hurricane/Drake which can over-power it both in terms of range and speed, completely negating anything the Brutix has going for it? Blasters are too short ranged to do anything, and railguns don't put out enough damage to make up for the disparity.

Even with that in mind, a Hurricane would just neut it to death and negate any armor repair bonus it has - much less a "re-balanced" bonus in which it's been given -MORE- armor rep capabilities, effectively driving the point home. Sure, removing the Hurricane's utility slots might help but then you have the absolute ridiculousness that is the Drake and it's omnipotent buffer. Being a shield tank, it might be slow, but it's definitely going to out-run an active tanked Brutix.

On to other ships; Myrmidon getting more med slots for reduced high slots? Sure, I could go for it, if armor modules were in the med slots. The Myrmidon is a specialist ship in the Gallente - you spend time training armor tank skills just to get into the Myrmidon/Lachesis/Arazu and get hit by a 'wtf' hammer involving shields.

Roden Ships aren't much better, and thank god this was mentioned in the minutes, but they're all over the place. One minute they're embarking on a Blaster heavy fit (Enyo) and the next they're incorporating Heavy Missiles (Lachesis).

I'm starting to question if the lack of Gallentean pilots has just left all of New Eden's Capsuleers wondering "what's a Gallente? What kind of fighting style do they have?"

No mention of an Electronic Warfare re-balance either, Eos wasn't even mentioned. I hate to say it, but all of these re-balancing ideas don't seem to change the pressing issue that's been festering here in that Gallente have no specialization, and aren't good enough at generalization to make a pressing change. Fixing Sensor Dampeners might band-aid it but without a look over at the Gallente's leadership bonuses the only ships that will ever use them are the Lachesis/Arazu, which will persist in being used for heavy tackle.

wat?
drones much?

Well they are basically doubling the amount of gallente Droneboats now with the new patches ^^ Can't remember where I read it but it seemed like there was a LOT of ships getting modified in to droneboats.

I don't understand why giving a brutix a better armor bonus would make me want to use it more. The only brutix I ever use is a shield scram brutix.


Simple logic, the blasters only work in scram range, the only way I can get in scram range is shield fit because the armor fit makes it battleship slow, the only way I can get a respectable DPS advantage due to having no damage choice is to have 3 magstabs and to run 3 magstabs you're out of the slots you need for a good armor tank. The only way they could make me want to armor tank is by fixing armor rigs so I'm not slower than the second coming. Even then I'd shield fit it unless it gains at least 1 low slot.

The problem is brawling is on life support, while kiting reigns supreme. As consequence, ships that are not good at kiting are just bad.

The whole armor vs shield balance makes NO sense. The speed reduction of armor plates and rigs means giving up the chance to escape or catch a similarly sized target. It's a massive tactical disadvantage.

Shield extenders/rigs get a non-penalty (under most circumstances), and if shield tanking didn't already dominate enough, there are now ASBs.

Shield extenders should cause a significant reduction to max cap if they are supposed to have a meaningful tactical disadvantage like armor plates have. Force the kiters to fit a cap injector if they want to MWD around constantly.

Tracking Enhancers should be reduced to 15% falloff. Force the kiters to commit to fighting at closer ranges and exposing themselves more.

Autocannons should get a tracking nerf so that autocannon-based kiters become more vulnerable to tackling frigs which are supposed to counter them but in practice just get shredded easily. Edit: actually the problem is mostly Barrage + Tracking Enhancers. Nerfing TE falloff and increasing Barrage tracking penalty might just be sufficient.

They need to re-balance Hybrids if they really want to "balance Gallente". Hybrids are obviously the problem, and will always be the problem.

You either fight in a "little box" and hope you don't get kited by a critical factor of 500m or you fit Rails and try not to be useless. There really is no versatility in Hybrids. If you're trying to alpha with rails.. why wouldn't you just use Arty, and thus.. a minnie ship?

I don't know, maybe I'm out of touch, or maybe I just hate blasters.

Either less stupid or more control over their behavior. Like setting speed, orbit range, response to things like being targeted, as well as a response to events like 0% shields/armor/hull, etc. Drone control as it is is barely any control at all. That coupled with the drones being dumb as ****, makes drones sub-sub-optimal for pvp.

tl,dr?

Don't forget the fact that Drones are the only weapon system that can be -KILLED- rather than hampered.

OP should probably realise that there's more forms of PVP than blobbing the living **** out of eachother. And in those scenarios a slightly buffed Brutix would fair well.