EVE General Discussion

AFK Mining =/= AFK Gatecamping

I propose some galaxy wide catastrophe that destroys the gates (and local along with it) and leaves nothing but wormholes connecting the systems

Everything would be so much better.

Okay, since I'm a highsec ******* and not a lowsec *******, I won't speak to that bit, but there's a common argument that I see that I'd like to address for a second if you'll indulge me.

I often get told that if I were a real pvper I wouldn't:
- dec people potentially less skilled or more poorly equipped than me
- spy
- safari
- scam or lie
- logon trap
- corp hop (now dead RIP)
- use neutral logi (I generally don't, but that's another discussion)
- etc.

The etc can be very broad, too. I once got accused of fighting cheap because I used a command ship in highsec. And by that I don't mean that I got called out for using an off-grid booster, but apparently fighting from an Absolution is cheating somehow.

Really, dudes? You honestly expect people to throw away competitive advantages? In everything you do, you're up against someone else, directly or indirectly. Do you think all your competition is also throwing away these advantages? Does your sense of e-honour have you in such an incredible stranglehold? I mean, I get it, I harbor some shreds of e-honour I have trouble letting go of too, but this isn't pistols at dawn. This is a shanking in a prison shower.

If we were playing tag, would you demand that everyone hop on one foot? If we were playing chess, would you demand everyone do it blind drunk? Are you living in such a Harrison Bergeron world that you really want to bring the whole game down to the lowest common denominator?

Looking at your stats on BC you have three kills in low-sec of wich a 2vs1 , a 10v1 and to top it off a 20vs1 . I think the people you are adressing will also not be impressed either as they rarely have a 10 man gang let alone a 20 man gang.

I'd suggest trying low-sec piracy with 1 or 2 friends for a month and not using the gates for your kills.I bet you'll be bored before the 2nd week is over because of lack of targets.


The gates is not the problem , it's the enviremont that needs to be adressed as it has had that need for year upon year upon year now.

just cant resist. I largely camp now because i ran out of ppl that would fight me. Ironically i don't camp the gate.

you mean .. places that are completely empty in low sec except for a few seconds every day?


There is not enough activity in low sec for other places to have PVP. The logical choice would be to make low sec belts spawn Battleship sized rats so people would go there t make REAL isk. That alone would skew a lot of the attention from gates and into the belts

the main reason why i am in FW is:

1) docking rights -> no station games
2) war -> no gate guns/gcc
3) plexes -> good for solo/small scale pvp

its like avoiding Eve's main game design issues by joining FW ;)

lol you have 6 kills and one of them is in lowsec, mail me in a year and let me know how this goes for you

literally that is their purpose, to force people into specific areas so you know where you can find people to shoot

Even discounting gate camps, suppose you have two wandering gangs looking for PVP. Where will they be most likely to meet? At a random celestial, or at a gate as they travel?

Where are they most likely to actually engage in a fight? Hint: the smaller/weaker gang is most likely going to avoid the fight if they can, because nobody wants to pointlessly lose a dozen ships to a more powerful enemy. The only way you're going to force a fight from them is catching them on a gate. Anywhere else and they are far more likely to simply run.