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"My officer fit XXX paid back for itself" - People are stupid.
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Ghazu
#21 - 2012-08-03 12:23:04 UTC
Back in the day it was funny as hell to blitz all the incursion sites and make the scrubs cry.

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2012-08-03 13:00:01 UTC
It seems like you don't understand how everyone has different wants. Not everyone is spending billions in fitting just to squeeze out 0.05% addition in performance and efficiency. Have you ever considered the fact that they do so because not everyone is risk-averse and some people like to embellish themselves with "pretty stuff?" Have you also considered the fact that everyone's level of disposable income is different?

You are quite content with your $50 dollar Columbia backpack. When you see someone with Hermes bag that costs $4,500, does that mean they are stupid? I don't think so.
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2012-08-03 13:01:20 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:
tl;dr OP fails to understand the opportunity cost of money but berates other people on doing their profit calculations wrong.


True that. And the basic understanding of economics.
Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#24 - 2012-08-03 13:03:29 UTC
The Antiquarian wrote:
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Listen to this guy. His avatar has a real in-game tin-foil hat.

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2012-08-03 13:06:39 UTC  |  Edited by: The Antiquarian
Shameless Avenger wrote:
The Antiquarian wrote:
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Listen to this guy. His avatar has a real in-game tin-foil hat.


Wow... another extremely insightful comment, relevant to this posting.

And what is the point of making fun of an avatar? Look at yours. Your avatar looks like a Cambodian war victim who has been malnourished for several decades.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2012-08-03 13:13:40 UTC  |  Edited by: March rabbit
Weasel Juice wrote:

The way I see it:

Compare two Tengus, one being a staple T2 fit costing 500mil overall including ship, the other one pimped out costing 5bil including ship.

Now the T2 fit, with whatever you are doing, can produce a solid 80mil per hour.
The pimped fit, doing the same thing, can produce a solid 100mil per hour.

what if we take another example?
- T2 fit tengu you can't run this complex (too low DPS/tank/whatever)
- pimped fit tengu can run this complex

And now: when do you think your fit will paid back for itself? Cool

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Josef Djugashvilis
#27 - 2012-08-03 13:18:08 UTC
I always fly with the cheapest fitting possible commensurate with the task in hand.

I am just too mean to waste isk.

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Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#28 - 2012-08-03 13:21:15 UTC
The Antiquarian wrote:
Shameless Avenger wrote:
The Antiquarian wrote:
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Listen to this guy. His avatar has a real in-game tin-foil hat.


Wow... another extremely insightful comment, relevant to this posting.

And what is the point of making fun of an avatar? Look at yours. Your avatar looks like a Cambodian war victim who has been malnourished for several decades.


it was a compliment :\

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"
Hammer Borne
Doomheim
#29 - 2012-08-03 13:27:28 UTC
Posting in a thread meant to detect people who use Officer mods...
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#30 - 2012-08-03 13:29:03 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:
tl;dr OP fails to understand the opportunity cost of money but berates other people on doing their profit calculations wrong.



Can you explain to me please?

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#31 - 2012-08-03 13:29:47 UTC
Ive been amazed at how much faster adding some expensive mods has made missions. Its not just 20% faster, it can double the speed. The reason is a few tough parts: That one ship you can barely break the tank of. A little extra DPS and it dies fast. That other ship you can barely track. Better tracking, and it dies fast.

That said, it does take a long time to make back the extra cost, especially if you go nuts (the OPs 5 billion case for example). I try to have balance: Add expense where it really helps, go cheap elsewhere.

Also, for many people having the best ship is the goal, just like having a good killboard record is a goal for other people.

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Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-08-03 13:32:45 UTC
I pimp my special ratting ship because I can.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Jonni Favorite
Militant Industrialists LLC
Militant Consortium
#33 - 2012-08-03 13:44:11 UTC
Aiwha wrote:
I pimp my special ratting ship because I can.

This. Some people wear earrings, some people get tattoos. Wtf do you care how I bling my digital spaceship?
Hammer Borne
Doomheim
#34 - 2012-08-03 13:57:00 UTC
Jonni Favorite wrote:
Aiwha wrote:
I pimp my special ratting ship because I can.

This. Some people wear earrings, some people get tattoos. Wtf do you care how I bling my digital spaceship?


You aren't doing it right unless you do it exactly how the PVPers tell you to. How dare you try and gain enjoyment from your game.
BoBoZoBo
MGroup9
#35 - 2012-08-03 14:04:42 UTC
Cap'in Haddock wrote:
Personally, I bling up knowing full well that it wont pay for itself any time soon, but doing missions that few minutes faster makes a whole bunch of difference when you're on limited timescales. Makes the difference between finishing a mission and not bothering to start it because you dont have time.


THIS - I dont run around with mods that are more expensive than my ship personally, but don't assume you know the motivation of everyone playing, and then call them stupid for it. I feel this guys reasoning. That 5 billion is nothing compared to my time in RL, especially wen you are making money like a banshee. Maybe you are just poor.

Assuming you know everyones motivation and strategy is.. stupid.

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Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#36 - 2012-08-03 14:17:47 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
Ive been amazed at how much faster adding some expensive mods has made missions. Its not just 20% faster, it can double the speed. The reason is a few tough parts: That one ship you can barely break the tank of. A little extra DPS and it dies fast. That other ship you can barely track. Better tracking, and it dies fast.

That said, it does take a long time to make back the extra cost, especially if you go nuts (the OPs 5 billion case for example). I try to have balance: Add expense where it really helps, go cheap elsewhere.

Also, for many people having the best ship is the goal, just like having a good killboard record is a goal for other people.


Adding to this... many (most?) PVE players are casual players. People with RL problems to take care of. One might not have an hour to dedicate to that mission before wife/kids/job interrupt the play time. Being able to do the mission faster might be the difference between finishing the mission or not finishing it at all.

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#37 - 2012-08-03 14:29:42 UTC
The flames, they do nothing.

If you're building a 30 billion isk pimped mission boat, it's not about being cost effective. It's about having a blinged-out ship to brag about. Whether or not the rest of us care about how awesome their red-plus-shooter is, they think it's grand, and I say let them think that.

Also, gank that ship and steal their stuff.

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Jim Era
#38 - 2012-08-03 14:45:12 UTC
Confirming I am now flying around in full officer fit.

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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#39 - 2012-08-03 14:58:01 UTC
At some point I had a then 1.2 bil shield thingy fitted to my Orca. So what? I payed for it with my own in game made isk.
If I want to fly around as a 'snack' for gankers that choice is mine.

If people can afford it, why not? Remember it's not only a game, nothing is yours. It all belongs to CCP.

Shrug.
Spurty
#40 - 2012-08-03 15:06:25 UTC
Op you have spoken the truth!

What were you thinking?

Stone post (not poster, he's worth keeping) to death

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