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Hauling datacores in high and low sec

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Russel Forbes
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-08-03 10:35:37 UTC
Hi,

I'm going the science way, using R&D agents to buy datacores I'll then sell.
In a tutorial, I have read that it is not recommended to haul datacores with a T1 industrial, because they are not strong enough and hauling millions of value in this, even in high, is not recommended . Too dangerous.

I'll haul mainly in high though, I think.

So what kind of ship should I use? Some guys told me they were able to fit an Atron, a gallantean ship, as an insta warp ship... Fast align, quick warp enter ship...

So I wonder, what kind of ship can I use and with what kind of module, to bring datacores and carry them around?

Thanks
Caitlyn Tufy
Perkone
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-08-03 11:31:31 UTC
Take a look at Blockade Runner transports. They can fit a covert ops cloak (meaning they can warp cloaked), have awesome align times and they're fast as hell. Sadly, they have a small cargo space, but really, if you're hauling datacores, you won't need THAT much space.
Russel Forbes
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-08-03 11:35:22 UTC
Yes, this is why I wondered if some kind of frigate cannot do the job, as I have to train for the science skills, and if I train for a blockade runner it will take me a lot of time.

Thanks anyway, sure I'll perhaps go the blockade runner way, just wondered if for now there is no less time intensive ship to use ^^
Caitlyn Tufy
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-08-03 11:37:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Caitlyn Tufy
Ah.

Well, a frigate could do it (Kestrel, perhaps, they have 305 m3 cargo capacity and 2 low slots for potential cargo extenders), if you aren't too limited by the cargo space and they're usually not ganked due to being aligned and warping practically as they decloak. :p Still, Blockade Runners are awesome for low and null sec, so you might want to look into them eventually.
Russel Forbes
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-08-03 12:12:06 UTC
I can perhaps try a probe frigate, it is a fast one, with inertia stab so it will align faster ;)
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#6 - 2012-08-03 12:24:11 UTC
Russel Forbes wrote:
I can perhaps try a probe frigate, it is a fast one, with inertia stab so it will align faster ;)


Nanofiber, rather than istab.

Istabs have this nasty habit of blowing up your sig radius, making you easier to target.

Nanos don't. They just reduce your structure. And if you're caught, you're toast anyway. Not /quite/ as effective, but good enough.

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Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#7 - 2012-08-03 12:35:13 UTC
The Atron (and similarly the Executioner, Condor and Vigil (which IIRC aligns a little faster than the Slasher and has a smaller sig)) is a very good starting option.
Later on you may find the Blockade Runners valuable but I would start out with the frigates and look to moving on to the Cov Ops initially.

Cargo space is not a significant consideration, at least initially. with a level four R&D Agent and good skills (circa 120 RPs (1.2 Datacores) per day) it will still take you something of the order of three months to save for the datacores to fill even one of those fast frigates.
Even if those Datacores are only selling for 100k each you're still hauling twelve million ISK or so at that, in a ship which casts a few tens of thousands.

If you only want to collect your 'cores once a year then yes, one of the Blockade runners is definitely a good investment but it leaves you with minimal capital for long periods unless you set up other projects, at which point there will likely be additional reasons for your particular choice of ship.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#8 - 2012-08-03 13:32:40 UTC
One benefit that blockade runners share with interceptors is their warp speed. 9au/s.

Which is nice when you're going a long way.

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Transient Drifter
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-08-03 21:59:36 UTC
unless you're carrying a ridicu-ton of datacores, i would not expect many people to feel that its worth the effort to gank you, in high-sec.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#10 - 2012-08-03 22:08:18 UTC
When I was hauling datacores regularly I used a cargo fit Cheetah. Now that I don't I pretty much have to use a blockade runner if I want to do it in one trip.

Which reminds me, I have a shitload of datacores accumulating... somewhere.
Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
#11 - 2012-08-04 01:52:14 UTC
It doesn't take long to train for a blockade runner. My character is about 2 months old and it was one of the first things I trained for while most of my core skills were still between level 3 and 4. I love my Viator and now I am focusing on getting all my navigation skills up to level 5, but even at skills level 4 the ship is so maneuverable. It is also significantly faster than the Iteron in both warp and subwarp. Set aside a month for Industry, Cloaking and Transport Ships, it is worth it.
Russel Forbes
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-08-04 09:04:02 UTC
Thanks a lot for those answers.
btw which blockade runner is the best one ? I like the Prorator look but it seems it is the slower one.
Perhaps the best bet would be the Viator, so with industrial ship to 5 I can have both the better T1 indu (Iteron V) and a good blockade runner.

I'll train my science skills though before going the covert ops or blockade runner way though. No use to have such a ship if I have no datacore to haul ^^

My character is about two weeks old, I have trained social skills for now and I'll soon train the required science skills. I need good social skills so I can better mission, as I will have to mission for several corps if I want to maximize profit for the datacores...
Mastin Dragonfly
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-08-04 09:20:27 UTC
You could also go for the Hawk, Caldari Assault Ship. 300m3 cargo hold and being an AS a tough nut to crack. When looking for alternative ships for transport keep in mind that missile ships usually have the largest cargo bays.
Russel Forbes
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-08-04 10:34:20 UTC
But keep in mind I'm not a fighter. I'm aiming for trade / research / manufacture... So training for an assault ship is perhaps a waste of time.

Also, to travel in low I would feel more secure in a cloaked ship than in a tough ship...