EVE General Discussion

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Can he pls Quit his Job and give it to me ?

Is he totally nuts or is there just a little too much drinking involved ?

Yeah. I've always said that you're not really a pirate if you care about your killboard. More of a paramilitary once that starts happening.

CCP has come up with a brilliant plan to make "nullsec vibrant again ", they are going to destroy low-sec and hope we all move back to 0.0.

Nah, its just.... I play this game for 8 years now and i have NEVER even come to the Idea that there might be something wrong with those Gateguns.
Sometimes i just wonder where they get their ideas from. ( Such comparable Ideas come to my mind when I´m drunk, so i just asked if he was drunk too :P )

No ... no, guys. I have the best idea.

We get shuttles.

And we get duct tape ...

Are you listening? Because here comes the best part ...

We duct tape ... the sentry guns ... to our shuttles. Eh? Eh?

You sir seem to be a complete idiot. This change doesnt affect me in the slightest, i dont camp low sec gates or even fight in low sec much, but i pvp enough to know that most fights occur on gates and stations, so weather you think gate campers and station games are the worlds worst ways to pvp or not, they are still one of the main places for fights and this change to sentry guns will stop many of these fights happening.

We as an alliance drop carriers on gates ******* daily!

You may aswell remove the "this is low security space, concord can't guarrantee your safety" notification when jumping to low sec.....because soon, gates have ******* DD devices.

Who voted this moron into the CSM? do you even fly in lowsec? do you understand how people "camp" gates without being on grid? the answer to those last two questions is an obvious no. try actually using the feature you want changed before you **** everyone over who does use it.

First - I don't think this change would do anything good and wont make lowsec more populated. To find solution CCP should look at problem 'Why lowsec is empty' in first place. And this isn't because of gate camps or station camps. Beside - how can you get killed on undock with reduced timers?

Lowsec needs some love. Its dead place for most of time. Persistent bastards like me can get kills anyway . But bigest problem is 'there is nothing really worth in lowsec to fly there and risk your ship/POD. Not when you compare it to Incursion , not when you compare it to missioning. Now look at amount of work you must put if you are doing lowsec exploration. To find good site you must sometimes scan few systems. Most of sites you probe are crap, some are silly hard and offer almost no reward. And while you can easily lose ship to rats there there is another risk of scum like me killing you. Been there done it. Some of those plexes needs atleast 40minutes-1hr if you are doing it solo in expensive ship or 2-3hrs in a drake (if you decided you wont risk anything expensive) and there is no 100% you will get anything beside bounty. Only small tiny chance of faction spawn. And to made it worst it's very small chance faction spawn drops anything more than tag and ammo + some t1 loot. Only few sites offer deadspace loot and even then it can be worth less than few mil. So from ISK POV there is no reason to go there and risk your valuable ship and implants. If you do mission l4 you will have same bounty + LPs as extras and you are rather safe if you dont mess with ocassional ninja looter or you arent WDecced. If you are doing Incursion then you can laugh at missioners or you can roll on the floor laughing when you think about poor soul doing lowsec exploration. And thats main problem. There is much risk but not much reward and its old well known truth.

Sometimes I camp gates. Not perma camps because its boring and counterproductive IMO. I have scouts and when I see something worth risk or I saw someone jumping to dead end system in something worth closer look at it then I can camp gate. Because I very often fly solo perma camping would be too risky and TOO BORING. With new propsed change such trapping of someone STUPID wont work and Im playing EVE because here stupidity isnt encouraged but its punished in every possible way + few more ways noone even thinked about.

If target is for example hauler then Im often using alt in snipe alpha nado. No worries about WCS, noone will tackle me on a gate when I GCC, etc, etc. In this situation sentry change would be good for me because my nado is wet paper tanked so if at first sentry wont hurts me much I would take less damage so I will have chance to shoot 2 or 3 volleys (maybe) and I would use another alt in insta locking inty or something like that to tackle. If some of us try to argue that change would be great for pilots of haulers then you see you are wrong. It would make them more exposed to fast gank with slightly changed tactics.

Another way of fight is when I see small gang (usualy sunday pvpers) sitting on a gate and looking either for easy kills or someone flashy red. Its fun to land on a gate in active tanked Myrm/Domi/Mael or other such ship. I can fight them if they attack me first and they are happy because they arent taking sentry damage and Im happy too because I can fight outnumbered but I'm not taking damage from sentry guns so I can make use of drones and I take little less damage. Then either Im dead or they lose few ships and disengage. GF in local and both sides got what they were more or less looking for. With proposed changes it wouldnt work. Sorry but I wont give them chance just to point me and avoid my damage until sentry guns nuke me. They can do it now but it will take more time because I must run out of cap boosters first not because I would be hit by some kind of DD.

I have prober alt.I know how to use him and I got good kills this way. Im killing in belts. I like to kill big ships in small ship or fight outnumbered. And I dont like gate camps. To make it more clear I hate wanabepvpers sitting on a gate and looking only for easy kills then typing GF after murdering Iteron. But those pilots are easy kills. And if someone cry because you saw carrier repping gang on a gate - I saw it few times and those carriers are on KB now. Sitting in a carrier in triage close to gate - gather friends and kill it. Its easier than you think. Or sell this info to some alliances who like such carriers as breakfast. They will bait it and kill it. Simple as that.

Lowsec wasnt very populated when I started game but there was way more pilots living there and it wasnt as empty as after Incursion. There was many pirates that arent active anymore and alliances/small corps left dead POSes and oone care about it. But later it was no reason for carebears to be there and without targets many pirates had no reason to spin ship in a station and sub game for another month .I dont blame Incursion as it is. Its ok because normal players who arent WH cavemans can meet more demanding rats and have reason to socialise (flying in fleet) instead of doing another mission solo. But it changed fragile balance and made lowsec not worth to fly there and risk.

It was wall of text and Im sorry for it and for my english. It isnt my native language but I hope you can understand what I tried to say.

I love your quote "So what gives, guys? Why didn’t you object to deleting PVP real PVP from low sec?"

Sorry to tell you but gate camping is not real PvP, as is shown by the people who now hide in Orcas if things get to tough.