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Takeaway from the initial conversation: Jon Lander is a boss. I can see why CSM is impressed with him.

I'll add an enthusiastic +1 to the idea of dev-led storyline content that the players can influence. Don't be afraid of interrupting my "preferred" playing style: EVE is a PVP game. If someone doesn't interrupt it every once in a while I start wondering if I'm alone on the server. :-)

@zxsteel: I think CCP is prioritizing things in the order of how confident they are that they can fix the problem quickly. Neither POSes nor sov (nor the corp interface nor PI) can be fixed by CCP Punkturis on a rainy Sunday, so they're being postponed until all the little stuff is cleared out of everyone's queues. It's not really a bad way to go about things, although that's easy for me to say from my perch in high sec.

answers are biased as for most players the whitepaper have way less importance than others subjects, so the first pannel which has more text is not that appealing, without being linked to its form.

also i had the impression that the first pages where missing sentences from Trebor (who was doing the editing, so maybe he forgot to include himself)

the biggest issue i saw reading these were a need for more editing : big feeling of the document being made by different people, and way too much things said again at a few lines of interval

I am a true warrior (Been reading it since I got back from work)

I liked the new format - after reading the full transcript portion and going back to the summary portion, I kept wondering: "how exactly did they phrase that?"

So about POS. Why not just treat them like ships? Give them 20m/s movement speed even. Have small, medium and large ones. Make them basically a new ship class, that can transform into a mode that makes them unable to move?

You can use that T3 tech to make them modular. Plus you'll kills two brids with one stone as you'd have to program in sub system targeting to get the whole thing to work.

Make them super slow ships. Hell maybe you should be able to cyno them with just an hour wait or something. Or even instant. They could become part of battles. Think about jumping in Space stations into a fleet battle. Having them there for pods to fly back to get more ships, reload ammo. Make them have a lot of hp but no refienforcement times when in combative mode.

I can allready see those little towns you were talking about, wild west style in 0.0 If anyone attack all of them can help defend. Even if no one is there to control them, so they are ships with a bit of AI to defend themselfs, go into rienfroced if no one is home.


In other words make them into what you were saying you thought titans might do make it the day. player own dockable objects. but if they can move? my god turn them into ships. Make them die offen if not defended. make them cost effective, cheaper than titans. If they aren't to much to make a small one you could see players in cruisers doing solo pvp with thier personal carrier. err um, I mean space station.

Maybe you could even have dedicated station pilots.

Docking into your own station. Moving into a defensive position and using them to clear sites would be awesome. Or drop on off where you come in to help defend yourself if players warp in.

Also would like to addon to this topic what ships are they adding on end of this year, i saw they promise to do 2 new ships a year!

You're assuming that they'll be player controlled. When CCP talks about arenas, they heavily inferred that the arena and betting would be game mechanics driven, in the purview of CCPs game mechanics, not player controlled, and the betting is going to be handled by the game mechanics.

They didn't say "let's give the players arenas that they can setup and profit from".

Regarding the arenas, I have a solution that won't take a giant poo in the sandbox... and the fiction for it already exists. Give corporations/alliances the ability to rent NPC "tanks," as mentioned in the tier 3 bc fiction. Only those in that alliance could access that instance, and the price would scale up depending on how many pilots are involved. (2 pilots, 2 million an hour, paid hourly. 40 pilots, 40 million an hour.) GOOD STANDINGS WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THE ALLIANCE/CORP TO THE NPC OWNER OF THE TANK.
That way, the sandbox isn't spoiled, as shooting your own friends isn't as delicious as savagely destroying someone's internet persona. It also makes for a nice isk sink, and promotes cooperative PVE play. oh, and it'd give people a proper spot to train for Alliance Tournaments.

>> Escalating Sentry Gun DPS

It sounds a bit half-assed, in a 'trying not to offend everyone too much' kind of way, which tends to just offend everyone greatly.

If you want more people in low-sec, then make the gates and stations "reasonably" secure. If low-sec can't support trade, and people can't travel there safe-ishly, then you're never going to increase the population. Ramping up sentry gun DPS isn't going to work, IMO.


OTOH, if the goal is also to use low-sec to ease people into PvP, then there needs to be a mechanism to find a fight outside of gates and stations. Which would mean encouraging mining, mission runners, site runners, ratting, etc., while still making it possible for pirates to scan them down. Which leads to...

PRESSING THE D-SCAN BUTTON EVERY SIX SECONDS in low-sec also needs to be "fixed" as part of the sentry gun/crimewatch changes.

Double the rewards for resource generating activities in low-sec. Greed attracts people and makes risk taking worth while.

Make the Crimewatch flags long term as per a most wanted list instead of being an egg-timer. This gives vigilantes and Townies a chance to form posses/militias/communities and "claim" a piece of low-sec by hunting down the riffraff. Also, get rid of sec-status hits in low-sec.

Good job guys, CCP & CSM. Like the new format it brings you much closer to the meeting and more insight into what CSM member does what and who hasn't got a clue at times like the Greene gentleman.

I like Greyscales enthusiasm. Put a jump drive on a POS. Now that's crazy. Though I really like the vision. It reminds me of the Borg Unicomplex.

Took some time to make my breakfast and hmm, the big this is (largely) GREAT! feelings are dwindling off again. It all sounds so good, it's got to be too good to be true. Like I remember how PI was envisioned, with border wars! Pollution! Crowdcontrol! Libraries!

Instead we got click, click, click.
Anyway, we'll see what ultimately lands in what kind of slimmed down version on TQ at some point.



But I'm missing something. Am I missing something? Where's the part you met with the big red viking?