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Maybe this was lost in the minutes creation process, but this is just patently untrue. Many of us made it very clear that social interaction needs to be up and running in a concrete form on launch day, and I sincerely doubt CCP would debut Dust 514 without this.

I know some of the discussion details (anything remotely touching release schedules) were withheld because of NDA considerations (Even commenting on the lack of a feature in the beta could be construed as breaking NDA, so be careful what you post here in EVE forums), but this is certainly not an issue the CSM is ignoring by any means.

The beta is just that, beta. CCP has said all along that much functionality is already built into the game and waiting to be "unlocked", so I think we need to take the beta with a grain of salt and not panic because its not where we'd like to see it quite yet.

Some 0.02 isk of mine ...

Industry
- get rid of the ME, PE, copy, invention, reverse engineering slots ... just provide research slots that might be used for each

Starbase/POS
- research slots (see above) will allow using slots the way you want
- provide research equipment (consumed and non-consumed) that improves the duration of research
- jumping ... immediate jump but 48 hours delay until next jump sounds more preferable to me
- jumping2 ... how do you get back into high-sec? that should work out somehow, otherwise the whole process of taking down and setting up a POS would have to be done for that

That is an unbelievably obnoxious and intrusive watermark.

Nerf his throwing ability of poop.

Don't be a fool, Drake is 'working' only cause its counterparts are underpowered. Either way. boosting the others or nerfing the drake directly, it will cease 'working' after the fix. It will become a normal ship like, say, harbinger.

Boosting DPS output and tank of all ships by 10 will not suddenly make them 10 times better, just like printing more money and doubling everyone's salary won't make people twice as rich in real life. Is it really that hard to comprehend?

I'm really unimpressed by the level of pushback the CSM was capable of, especially in the 0.0 section. CCP basically declared they had no intention of iterating on 0.0 in any real form in any reasonable timeframe and the CSM simply sat back and nodded.

Directly, no .. you have not said it. You have stated, however, on numerous occasions that changes made to FW is to bring it in line with null paradigms and that the good/worthwhile bits will be used when sovereignty gets its time in the sun .. for all intents and purposes you might as well have stated it as quoted.
Just happy you (not you, but CCP) has not fallen into the trap of lazy design and added more EHP grinds as solutions to the multitude of issues still plaguing the FW corner of the sandbox.

Please accept my most humble apologies for misquoting you.

PS: When quoting walls, it is generally advisable to only include the relevant bits while indicating that it is a partial quote. Makes for a much cleaner and efficient forum.

See above, and

I continually complain because FW had been blue-balled by Devs for almost three years before you even set foot in the Universe, the complaints is all that's left. If you can find some of my earlier 'work' you'll realise that I wasn't always this shrouded in shadow .. quite the little fluffy bunny/happy go-getter/annoyingly overenthusiastic once upon a time .. personally don't care as endorphins/adrenaline is released by emotions on both end of the spectrum so I still get my jolts

On a side note: Forum rules need to be changed to state that "any comment regarding or pertaining to CCP staff with the slightest negative connotation is not allowed .. feel free to praise them however".
The *snipped* part was no where near personal attack worthy yet was treated as such .. believe it or not, the last two posts that got censored (in retrospect, rightly so) taught me to moderate myself so intentionally "kept it down" this time around.

I still get the idea that CCP moved from fearless to fear when it comes to Incarna.
But I am happy that the CSM emphasized that the main reason players raged over the initial release was the diversion of resources.

I also think the detailed minutes help me have more faith in the CSM. Well, most of them anyway.

The other problem, is that most FC's that I know that do Large fleet fights, will most definitely want 150-300 of a single ship type, rather than 300 different ship types. Unfortunately, the Drake is relatively easy to get into for newer players for Large Fleet Fights as opposed to a proper alpha maelstrom. That alone boosts the "number of ships flown" as opposed to other standard BC's.

My comments on a few topics:

- Stakeholder
"CCP Unifex: The reality is, if we gave you the recording and you got back to us in 24 hours, the team has already implementing the feedback they got in the meeting and done their sprint planning."

Unifex is right here. The sprint planning in scrum usually happens in the second half of the first day. The point here, though, is that if the CSM spots a serios flaw in something and is able to provide the feedback asap it will be easier for the agile team to fit an adjustment in a lated sprint, before release (in fact, probably before it goes to Sisi).

- EVE Future
"(...) ship customizations (...), for example the question of how much customizability should be allowed has not been answered."

Ok, let's make it simple, you don't need to answer this question right now. Just allow corp & alliance logos, it should be easy to implement. Release that, see how it pans out and only then start wondering how ship skins should work.

"CCP Unifex asked, to simply explore the option, how it would be received to simply completely randomly reseed the moon resources?"

A stagnant map tends to a stagnand status-quo in due time. A one-time, universe-wide reseeding would have temporary effects.

"it is contradictory to provide functionality to people to build up their space and then add a pressure on them to move their ‘homes’ frequently"

The word here is balance. Everything that has a beggining has an end, or at least it should, but the current mechanics are soo focused at rooting people in one place that it leads to stagnation. Give people reasons to settle somewhere and build empires, give them reasons to pack their things and leave, then let them sort it out. Sure, two months is too short, but all you need to do is adjust the implementation to make it a longer timeframe. If people feel a need to move every one or two years on the average, then it has already accomplished what is needed.

"He also added that perhaps a ‘longevity’ perk could be added to clones, meaning that the longer a person is using a clone it would get unique bonuses."

This seems cool and all, but I think in the end it will be just one more reason for people not to join ops.

"Discussion then turned to Arenas, which were envisioned as a tool to promote some sort of organized PvP without ruining the game."

Nooooooooo! The game already have the biggest arena you could as for, just drop a piece of ammo and let the other guy grab it (and even this could be skipped if you are not in hisec).

- The State of Incarna
"CCP Unifex responded that CCP didn’t want players to feel ripped off be devaluing something they already bought."

If you are unsure about how to go repricing older items I suggest you ask your Steam partners. They have a lot of experience doing this with games. One thing I'm certain of: at some point you will get Incarna right and then demand for these items will increase. When that happens it is best if they are at the right price. It's not the best approach to keep them as they are 'just because'.

- Industry and mining
"Trebor then added that as long as the top-level jobs could be prioritized the system could handle most things automatically, but someone who wanted to work a little more could schedule lower-level jobs in a more optimum way (say, interleaving production and research) -- this would be a "think sink" where a player willing to put in extra time and effort could get an edge."

The problem with this reasoning is that six months after it is released there will be someone complaining "why is the game doing xyz in this way when it is clear that doing it in this other way would be better? The game is supposed to be in a highly technologically advanced society and thus all these things would naturally be automated."

- Starbase rework
"Two step asked if there would be a one starbase per grid limit, and CCP said no. They want to allow people to build little "cities" of starbases."

POS wars!!! Anchor a few combat POSes around your enemy's and let them duck it out for hours!

- Null sec
"Two step: “(...) The money stuff needs to get looked at. If that means lowering income across the board…”"

What?!? What is wrong with you people? Nobody in the room disagreed with that? For your information, not everybody is swimming in money.

- Corporation management
"the leader of a corporation should have the ability to drop a member, anytime, anywhere, with no cool-downs or other delays."

There are some edge cases that need to be looked at. The pilot convoes the CEO: "Quick, quick! They tackled my freighter! Drop me from corp!". And the freighter escapes, with just a sliver of structure left. What would be the point of wardec'ing people again?

- Ship balance and iteration
"On the subject of sniping, Greyscale tossed out a high-level idea for a fix to sniping. He asked for CSM input on one such idea, an interdiction probe that would be launched a certain range before the bubble would deploy. In essence it would work as a drag-bubble to protect the sniping fleet, or at least give it ample time to react and reposition."

Carefull, guys. This will without a doubt be used for any number of unintended cases.

- ‘Player to player contracts’
"CCP Soniclover: “This is how I see it, we want to make it smooth. To make it smooth, we would probably have to bypass the existing rules, like whom you can fight in high sec. It would be much less valuable to make a defense contract for a POS if you than had to go declare war on the target as well.”"

This needs to be elaborated. The way it was stated it is too easily gamed.