Jita Park Speakers Corner

And then screw over high sec players to get your way. If you want to secede go to another game and don't infringe on OUR game by making additions and suggestions and demands that 70% don't want.

Are there many more with such consent?

Kelduum Revaan, the CEO of noted veteran corp EVE University, known for its upper 8 digit SP requirements, is on the CSM.

I believe for earlier comments he just wants it removed so we can trust in the Developers...
As the CSM is suggesting things the other 70% don't want.

I will admit I laughed when I heard that one.

I suppose we could rename "EvE Online" to "Riots R Us" and be done with it.

Yeah I can't believe that people that didn't vote aren't being heard now. I personally am going to cry myself to sleep EVERY NIGHT until the CSM is disbanded over this.

Exactly, this entire issue ( if true which I doubt) ) can be fixed by getting your mates to vote

I don't randomly vote. Indeed last term I didn't at all. I think many of the CSM have lost sight of the main goal and I want to see a change.

I think we need someone to shake things up next year.

On a separate note I would like to be able to vote for people based on an area

for example having ministers, like a mining and industry person, someone for PvP, Mission Runners, Wormholes, Null sec, Hi-sec ect..

It would be easy to come up with 14 different types with the number of votes received still deciding the areas most fitting to go to CCP for summits. That way the number of votes received would be more inclined to show what areas the players would like to see fixed/altered.

So the voting screen would be longer and would allow voting for people in the different categories, while only allowing a person to appear in only 1 catagory.

Then the CSM could elect there own Chairman, secretary ect..

Ok well on the categorizing the issues if you have for example several candidates for the post of CSM PvP and you have for example someone whose expertize is high sec ganking and another candidate who is an FW candidate and someone who is primarily a Null sec blobber, if out of those the blobber got voted in you could presume that those who care enough about the game to vote are mostly feeling that blob war fare needs some love. Yes this would be gamed a hell of a lot by the organized blocks but that is hardly an argument because the current system is now.

Yes I agree lo-sec, null sec, hi-sec are rather broad categories but most people have the majority of there expertise in one sec. Those people who have a lot of multi sec experience should just pick one that they believe they are strongest for and go for that one. There extra exterience in other areas would be a bonus to the CSM if they were voted in.

On the Iceland trip it is still he who has the most votes wins.So if you are say running for the Null sec candidate and you are by far superior to those running against you, you will get more votes than say a hi-sec candidate that only gets in by the skin of their teeth because another candidate was almost as popular.

As to why CCP should bother to extend an olive branch as it where to people who cannot be bothered.
Well it is their game too and more importantly it is the 80+% of accounts that did not vote that keeps the game running with their money. Yes having people who don't care that much about EvE is worrying but like most things the general populous needs to be educated, the presence of the CSM to the average player is minor or non-existent. This needs to change, they need to be made more aware especially as the CSM becomes more of a stake holder in the future.

Frankly even if the voting categorizes thing died in the butt, I strongly believe we need to bring more of the cannot be bothered crowd into the fold. Having a larger percentage of them voting will reduce the power of special interest group voting blocks yes but most importantly it will give us a more representative CSM. The closer the CSM is to the whole of the player base the less complaints and unsubs we will get as well as a higher percentage of player satisfaction.

The more happy players EvE has the more subs it will get via word of mouth. The more subs it gets means it will get more money. The more money it has the more people they can hire to work on THIS game. More people working means a better game for us all.

Sorry if some of it is a bit fuzzy, RL intrudes

Another thing that should be kept in mind is the following:

Everyone in nullsec have been to highsec. Not everyone in highsec have been to nullsec.

That apply as much as a general principle of age and experience in the game, as it does gameplay profile. Not only have people in null done the voyage once, their way of playing the game usually entail revisiting highsec on a daily basis. They have done everything you do, and more. Why vote for someone with a limited scope of the game over someone with a comprehensive one?

Some people living in highsec belive their limitation enable a greater depth of understanding for their "division" of the sandbox, but there's only so much depth you gain from doing the limited things offered for years rather than months. The content is not varied enough to see depth in experience accumulated over time when it comes to NPC- or market interaction over limited area.

Now, i know the "new deal" of CCP is trying to pander to, and pamper, you - going against the logic of their own core game to create theme parks in a sandbox - trying to say that highsec should be an eligable microcosmos contained within itself. That doesn't change the fact that there are other players with a more comprehensive perspective on the entire cosmos, the entire game.

That means those people will also pluck votes from people who to do not live within their "block".

I do not currently involve myself with sovereign space either - yet i voted for people who do - because they had the most comprehensive platforms. It's not like i don't care about EVE outside the immidiate scope of what i do myself. That's just bigotry, and i'm glad that has no voice on the current CSM.