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Kazzzi
Heathen Legion
Iron Men of the Hood
#21 - 2011-09-27 18:15:30 UTC
In the Empire, even the most devout subjects are shunned for submitting themselves to public scrutiny and handing the proverbial olive branch. Your lords and masters are not interested in peace and the stability of the Empire. They care only for their own image and power. Peoples of Amarr, you will find only strife under the heels of your masters. It is time to rise up and cast aside these bitter old raisins, these holders, who rule you.
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#22 - 2011-09-27 18:31:20 UTC
Kazzzi wrote:
In the Empire, even the most devout subjects are shunned for submitting themselves to public scrutiny and handing the proverbial olive branch. Your lords and masters are not interested in peace and the stability of the Empire. They care only for their own image and power. Peoples of Amarr, you will find only strife under the heels of your masters. It is time to rise up and cast aside these bitter old raisins, these holders, who rule you.


You're sounding increasingly desperate lately.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#23 - 2011-09-27 18:49:39 UTC
Vaari wrote:

It might also be good to remember, that I am lord. Im not some field peasant who won the honor to be a independent spaceship captain. Im Lord Vaari, earl of Sosan VII, second only to the planetary governor. Im member of imperial high nobility and that alone, without any deeds should ensure almost limitless amount of respect from other amarrians. Especially from those, who claim to be loyalists


I am only loyal to the Empire and the Empress, may she rule forever. I owe you no fealthy and no respect except that what you have earned by your actions Vaari, if I had one isk for every capsuleer that claims to be a lord on some backwater planet or a member of the imperial family I could have bought the Khanid titan by now.

I might be an upjumped peasant or I might not be but I know one thing though, my lasers burn just as bright in the cold vacuum of space and they are fired with as much faith and fervor as yours.

- [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow]
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2011-09-27 19:42:51 UTC
Vaari wrote:
There are plenty of proofs that God exist.


All of which are logical fallacies, and thus not "proofs" at all. Don't start this argument with me, Vaari. Your deity is imaginary. While the existence of a supernatural is not objectively disprovable, the existence of the Amarr god in particular most certainly is.

Myth busted.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Kazzzi
Heathen Legion
Iron Men of the Hood
#25 - 2011-09-27 19:52:02 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
You're sounding increasingly desperate lately.

I assure you I am not trying to get in your pants.

I'm just inspired by several maglev train bombings in the Empire.
Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy
#26 - 2011-09-27 20:25:35 UTC
Ciar Meara wrote:
Vaari wrote:

It might also be good to remember, that I am lord. Im not some field peasant who won the honor to be a independent spaceship captain. Im Lord Vaari, earl of Sosan VII, second only to the planetary governor. Im member of imperial high nobility and that alone, without any deeds should ensure almost limitless amount of respect from other amarrians. Especially from those, who claim to be loyalists


I am only loyal to the Empire and the Empress, may she rule forever. I owe you no fealthy and no respect except that what you have earned by your actions Vaari, if I had one isk for every capsuleer that claims to be a lord on some backwater planet or a member of the imperial family I could have bought the Khanid titan by now.

I might be an upjumped peasant or I might not be but I know one thing though, my lasers burn just as bright in the cold vacuum of space and they are fired with as much faith and fervor as yours.


Loyalty to the Empire means you also follow it laws and traditions. We are feudal society, and while you have not sworn fealthy to me, im still your superior on every important aspect of life you can imagine.

Claiming to be member of one of the royal family is very serious crime if it is not true. Penalty would be death, I imagine. I have never seen one who would dare to claim such thing and it would be a lie.

I noticed you used word "imperial family" what is this family, for I have never heard from such family? I take you mean House Emperor, but you have already prooven to be such ignorant peasant, that you would imagine that to be House Sarum.

If you are planning to continue lecturing to me about Empire and how you respect it, atleast try to remember the basics:

There are six royal house in the Empire. These are House Sarum, House Ardishapur, House Kador, House Tash-Murkon, House Kor-Azor and House Emperor. Emperor or empress is not member of any previous house, but after coronation he or she forms the House Emperor

Fear the God and honor the Empress!

-House Valius battle shout.
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#27 - 2011-09-28 08:22:48 UTC
Vaari wrote:

I noticed you used word "imperial family" what is this family, for I have never heard from such family? I take you mean House Emperor, but you have already prooven to be such ignorant peasant, that you would imagine that to be House Sarum.


My dear lord Vaari, I was talking in broad, general terms of the ones that claim to be descendants or relatives of any Emperor, Imperial line, Royal family, Mighty lord or Hero of the Empire, etc. These self styled lords often feel the need to claim their authority and general superiority based on some unsubstantiated birthright, not unlike you lord Vaari...

Why I think I'd be able to afford the Khanid titan based on your boast alone!

- [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow]
Thgil Goldcore
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2011-09-28 08:39:58 UTC
We are Amarr, have you forgotten that and decided to become petty? This behavior is below us and is un-necessarily and un-wanted.

Clearly this issue has derailed a while ago. I'm fairly sure tossing accusations where never part of this topic though. Also its giving people like Kazzzi a place to slander our empire.

I must admit I am not fully informed on all the issues and why relations with Lord Vaari are poor, but it is not my place to question.

I pray that we can resolve any problems properly and with the dictum our heritage deserves.

Thgil Goldcore
Arch Lieutenant
Jon Engel
Machete Carbide
#29 - 2011-09-30 04:58:23 UTC
Not a single **** was given on that day.
Ascentior
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#30 - 2011-09-30 15:09:09 UTC
Vaari wrote:

It might also be good to remember, that I am lord. Im not some field peasant who won the honor to be a independent spaceship captain. Im Lord Vaari, earl of Sosan VII, second only to the planetary governor. Im member of imperial high nobility and that alone, without any deeds should ensure almost limitless amount of respect from other amarrians. Especially from those, who claim to be loyalists.

I made very generous offer. I asked what does PIE demand from me to restore relations. In return, I was insulted by that admiral Blake.

Lord Vaari,

I am loyal to God, the Empire, my Corp and my brethren. In that order.

I am sure you command much respect from those under your earlship of Sosan VII. You may also have the respect of your subjects. I am neither.

I fight for God and the Empire. I protect our people. While I have no opinion on you or your behaviour, I also have no fealty to you. I am not a member of any particular house. To demand 'almost limitless amount of respect' from anyone but your loyal subjects seems a little crazy, Lord.

That being said, I will respect you as a subject of God. If you continue to serve Him, you will always be respected as that. No respect given from anyone in the cluster is more important.

Admiral of PIE Inc., Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris (See 'PIE Public' for recruitment)

Honorary Fabricator-General of the Imperial Navy

Chosen by God to serve the Empire.
Shakra Matrayus
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2011-10-01 07:48:43 UTC
Okay, someone correct me if i'm wrong, but wouldnt a noble becoming a capsuleer be a breach of amarrian scripture and law? I seem to recall something in regards to it being a defilement of holy flesh, so any such noble would officially be a Heretic.
Thgil Goldcore
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2011-10-01 08:00:01 UTC
You are right, every Ammarian capsuleer pays the ultimate price for their service. Its why many of us are disowned by our families and our old lives. The faithful are willing to sacrifice themselves for the good of God and Empire.

For this we are both respected and feared, honored and damned.

Thgil Goldcore
Initiate of PIE
Marshal Commander of the Amarr empire
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#33 - 2011-10-01 09:13:14 UTC
Shakra Matrayus wrote:
Okay, someone correct me if i'm wrong, but wouldnt a noble becoming a capsuleer be a breach of amarrian scripture and law? I seem to recall something in regards to it being a defilement of holy flesh, so any such noble would officially be a Heretic.


The traditional theological restriction on cloning never applied to minor nobility.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
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