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Does thorax's MWD bonus make any sense to this ship?
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ValentinaDLM
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#21 - 2012-08-03 13:42:35 UTC
I would personally favor a 7.5% tracking bonus, kinda putting it in the lineup like a mini megathron which is how I viewed the ship ought to act.

Falloff is too big of a bonus, combine with a few TEs and we are talking about kiting with antimatter. Optimal might be okay, that would be decent range with null, but keeps the close range ammo pretty close. I don't either would fit with the Gallente mentality.

A 10% armor rep bonus like the incursus could be fun and keeps with Gallente traditional bonuses.
Je720
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-08-03 16:04:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Je720
ValentinaDLM wrote:
I would personally favor a 7.5% tracking bonus, kinda putting it in the lineup like a mini megathron which is how I viewed the ship ought to act.

Falloff is too big of a bonus, combine with a few TEs and we are talking about kiting with antimatter. Optimal might be okay, that would be decent range with null, but keeps the close range ammo pretty close. I don't either would fit with the Gallente mentality.

A 10% armor rep bonus like the incursus could be fun and keeps with Gallente traditional bonuses.

There is no way a 10% rep bonus would work on the Thorax mostly due to lack of power grid. The 7.5% tracking bonus makes sense but I like the idea of a 7.5% falloff bonus a lot more.
Waylan Yutani
Noir.
Shadow Cartel
#23 - 2012-08-03 16:15:25 UTC
I'd ask for a bit moree grid so i can fit my 1600mm plate with a rack of ions or neutrons, or fall off bonus. Raxxes are always out of range :-)
Verity Sovereign
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2012-08-04 10:11:06 UTC
From:
5% increase to MicroWarpdrive capacitor bonus per level.
To:
5% increase to MicroWarpdrive capacitor and speed bonus per level.
=
Win
Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-08-04 15:32:45 UTC
Verity Sovereign wrote:
From:
5% increase to MicroWarpdrive capacitor bonus per level.
To:
5% increase to MicroWarpdrive capacitor and speed bonus per level.
=
Win


Ah yeah!

I would say the MWD bonus might let you catch things like Vagas.
Mechael
Tribal Liberation Distribution and Retail
#26 - 2012-08-04 17:35:10 UTC
Aside from cruisers in general being totally ******, the Thorax is an excellently designed ship.

Gallente boats are meant to be fast with amazing damage output. Focusing the Thorax on a capacitor-friendly MWD means it can always catch all but the fastest of ships and then tear them a new ******* with heavy blaster fire. Exactly what Gallente ships are generally meant to do.

They're not supposed to be brick armor tanks. That's what the Amarr do. The armor rep bonus that you see on some Gallente hulls is more of a secondary defensive method, and plays into their guerrilla style design by giving them an edge when repping up between fights while simultaneously allowing them to survive just barely long enough to get their kill and gtfo.

You need a solid set of brass balls to fly Gallente boats, and this is a good thing.

Whether or not you win the game matters not.  It's if you bought it.
Mechael
Tribal Liberation Distribution and Retail
#27 - 2012-08-04 17:36:55 UTC
Honestly, I'd love to see more MWD specific bonuses on Gallente ships.

Whether or not you win the game matters not.  It's if you bought it.
Darius Brinn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2012-08-04 19:09:31 UTC
ValentinaDLM wrote:

A 10% armor rep bonus like the incursus could be fun and keeps with Gallente traditional bonuses.


I wish I could shove my arms through the DSL cable, reach wherever you happen to live, and strange you to death.

Active armor rep bonus in ships which need an ungodly amount of MWD'ing around to reach targets, and which have to resort to cap-using weapons is a BIG ****ING NO. It works on the Myrmidon because it has enough lows to brick it up and send the drones away to do the job, but please, not in a PVP ship which is within Nos/Neut range 100% of the frigging time.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#29 - 2012-08-04 20:34:45 UTC
Darius Brinn wrote:
ValentinaDLM wrote:

A 10% armor rep bonus like the incursus could be fun and keeps with Gallente traditional bonuses.


I wish I could shove my arms through the DSL cable, reach wherever you happen to live, and strange you to death.

Active armor rep bonus in ships which need an ungodly amount of MWD'ing around to reach targets, and which have to resort to cap-using weapons is a BIG ****ING NO. It works on the Myrmidon because it has enough lows to brick it up and send the drones away to do the job, but please, not in a PVP ship which is within Nos/Neut range 100% of the frigging time.


You make it out to be much worse than it actually is.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Spc One
The Chodak
Void Alliance
#30 - 2012-08-05 06:36:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Spc One
Mukun wrote:
anyone can tell me how that bonus gives thorax any advantage in combat?

Yes.
It makes MWD capacitor battery because it gives you more cap.
For example if you fit 10MN Microwarpdrive II it gives you +8% more capacitor capacity, which is good for hybrids.
If you fit Gistum A-Type 10MN Microwarpdrive it gives you 22% more capacitor.

This way you can perma MWD to target for close range.
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