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Why are people on EVE so hostile and negative?
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Garreth Vlox
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#141 - 2012-08-01 23:34:21 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
It is not Eve per se.

It would seem that with the 'anonymity' and 'freedom' provided by the internet, folk who would not normally feel able to spout bile because of the consequences if they did so to a person's face, think they can get away with being vile on the internet.

Sad really.


I disagree, I am every bit the unpleasant, offensive, unfriendly person I appear to be.

The LULZ Boat.
Russell Casey
Doomheim
#142 - 2012-08-01 23:58:18 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Anonymity coupled with the potential for violence and abuse that is not punished by the traditional safety mechanisms that society put in place allows people to express their true nature. What you're seeing when people gank/pirate/steal/insult each other is how people really are. When the girl at the coffee shop smiles as she hands you your latte is simply an act of wearing a mask.


Other day I played Candyland with my 6-year old cousin. He bumped me back to the licorice swamp where I was stuck for two turns just when I was one more space away from the candy cane castle. He won the game and laughed at me.
















Kid must be a sociopath. Shocked
Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
#143 - 2012-08-02 00:00:34 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Peter Raptor wrote:
Andrardd Andrard wrote:
Been playing for a year, about to unsub due to constant hostility and negativity at each turn.

So EVE, why so hostile and angry?


Its obvious.

Today few people have religion, if there is no religion in society, "morality" is just a figment of the imagination, there is no "right and wrong" for people who do not think they "will be held to account for the things they have done" (Quoting Denzel Washington from the Book of Eli) .

And so that's why many Eve players come across as angry, atrocious, bad, baneful, base, beastly, calamitous, corrupt, damnable, depraved, destructive, execrable, flagitious, foul, harmful, hateful, heinous, hideous, iniquitous, injurious, loathsome, low, maleficent, malevolent, malicious, malignant, nefarious, no good, obscene, offensive, pernicious, poison, rancorous, reprobate, repugnant, repulsive, revolting, spiteful, unpleasant, unpropitious, vicious, vile, villainous, wicked, wrathful, and sinful.

Answer is "Elementary Dear Watson" (Quoting some guy from another movie Bear )


Exactly how many wars over the course of history had nothing to do with religion versus those that were because of religion?



The worst come to mind WWI , WWII and the Atheist Communists killed over 100 mil, but its ok, cos they don't think they'll be held to account and they'll just get away with it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism

Evelopedia; 

The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion  †  
Merovee
Gorthaur Legion
Imperium Mordor
#144 - 2012-08-02 01:25:14 UTC
Andrardd Andrard wrote:
Been playing for a year, about to unsub due to constant hostility and negativity at each turn.

So EVE, why so hostile and angry?


I hate mohawks, reminds me of the 'tards on the short bus. Big smile

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Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#145 - 2012-08-02 01:26:16 UTC
Have you ever ever play league of legends? i think thats summons everything....
Nikolai Dostoyevski
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#146 - 2012-08-02 02:25:08 UTC
Andrardd Andrard wrote:
Been playing for a year, about to unsub due to constant hostility and negativity at each turn.

So EVE, why so hostile and angry?


1. Maybe you take things to personally?

2. Maybe you're doing things that earn you hostility and negativity?

3. Maybe Eve is stuffed with people who enjoy griefing others because they feel griefed IRL.

4. Eve just has a lot of jerks that play it because CCP supports mechanics that reward people for being asshats.

Just some ideas.. I ran into quite a few major jerks early in my playing days.. I still remember doing the Dagan mission in the Sisters of Eve arc.. was still VERY new to the game - probably on my 7th day of playing or thereabouts. I had no skills, was brand new, didn't even know how the game worked too well yet. Had only the vaguest sense of can flipping after reading these forums excessively for several days. So anyway this guy scans me down (didn't even know you could do that then and had no idea people could jump into your "missions"), jumps into my Dagan mission after I've been fighting Dagan for close to 30 minutes trying to wear down his tank.. slaughters Dagan.. loots the corpse and then tries to ransom it to me for 100 million ISK. All this when I had about 5 million ISK to my name. I realized then and there that some people in this game just get their kicks from griefing people. They like to claim they're creating just a harsh environment that is all Eve-ish and such, but the truth is they're just pricks using this game's mechanics as an excuse to act this way. And even if I was a vet, I wouldn't have been able to come get retribution on him without sacrificing my ship because he hadn't flipped my can or done anything to incur GCC.

So... the good news.. there are corps out there that aren't full of asshats like this. Find one, get to know them, learn from them, keep an open mind, and then enjoy the game. Because other than the thrill of learning a new game, the early game sucks, especially when you're dealing with the scum that like to prey on noobs.
Mr Beardsley
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#147 - 2012-08-02 03:27:36 UTC
Nikolai Dostoyevski wrote:
Andrardd Andrard wrote:
Been playing for a year, about to unsub due to constant hostility and negativity at each turn.

So EVE, why so hostile and angry?


1. Maybe you take things to personally?

2. Maybe you're doing things that earn you hostility and negativity?

3. Maybe Eve is stuffed with people who enjoy griefing others because they feel griefed IRL.

4. Eve just has a lot of jerks that play it because CCP supports mechanics that reward people for being asshats.

Just some ideas.. I ran into quite a few major jerks early in my playing days.. I still remember doing the Dagan mission in the Sisters of Eve arc.. was still VERY new to the game - probably on my 7th day of playing or thereabouts. I had no skills, was brand new, didn't even know how the game worked too well yet. Had only the vaguest sense of can flipping after reading these forums excessively for several days. So anyway this guy scans me down (didn't even know you could do that then and had no idea people could jump into your "missions"), jumps into my Dagan mission after I've been fighting Dagan for close to 30 minutes trying to wear down his tank.. slaughters Dagan.. loots the corpse and then tries to ransom it to me for 100 million ISK. All this when I had about 5 million ISK to my name. I realized then and there that some people in this game just get their kicks from griefing people. They like to claim they're creating just a harsh environment that is all Eve-ish and such, but the truth is they're just pricks using this game's mechanics as an excuse to act this way. And even if I was a vet, I wouldn't have been able to come get retribution on him without sacrificing my ship because he hadn't flipped my can or done anything to incur GCC.

So... the good news.. there are corps out there that aren't full of asshats like this. Find one, get to know them, learn from them, keep an open mind, and then enjoy the game. Because other than the thrill of learning a new game, the early game sucks, especially when you're dealing with the scum that like to prey on noobs.


#4 for the win.
Natasha Mendel
Doomheim
#148 - 2012-08-02 05:01:26 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Ban Bindy wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Anonymity coupled with the potential for violence and abuse that is not punished by the traditional safety mechanisms that society put in place allows people to express their true nature. What you're seeing when people gank/pirate/steal/insult each other is how people really are. When the girl at the coffee shop smiles as she hands you your latte is simply an act of wearing a mask.


You can believe that if you want, since it serves your need to act out this way yourself. Sometimes a smile is actually a smile.

Do you always give the nice Nigerian prince your bank account details to assist him in reclaiming his rightful royal inheritance?


So what's your point, exactly?
Gorinia Sanford
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#149 - 2012-08-02 05:08:39 UTC
Andrardd Andrard wrote:
Been playing for a year, about to unsub due to constant hostility and negativity at each turn.

So EVE, why so hostile and angry?


Probably compensating for a small part of the reproductive anatomy.
Mal Ishos
Steecey's Industries
#150 - 2012-08-02 05:09:45 UTC
To answer the title question without reading anything else that came after it; people sometimes forget that this is just a video game. Once you invest as much time into something that is as negative as the mods have allowed these forums to become, you start to seem bitter and jaded and it just becomes easier and easier to fall into that role. But that's the life of a forum warrior. You can never stop posting, no matter what. No matter how petty or insignificant your argument is, you keep on beat-beat-beating that dead horse because as soon as you stop posting, someone else is going to post something else. Now, as for why the mods allow it? I'll let you decide. Bear
Andrardd Andrard
Doomheim
#151 - 2012-08-07 05:46:10 UTC
Garreth Vlox looks like Mr. Obama.
Tara Read
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#152 - 2012-08-07 06:16:00 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Sure it has! Everyone who isn't a compassionate, honorable, caring industrialist is obviously a 35-year-old, angry, pimple-faced virgin living in his mother's basement! It's common sense!


And is probably going to be the next Batman mass-murderer (Police logic).


It's simple we kill the Bat fans....
RAP ACTION HERO
#153 - 2012-08-07 06:39:17 UTC
because of npc shitposters.

vitoc erryday
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#154 - 2012-08-07 06:42:34 UTC
Andrardd Andrard wrote:
I read somewhere the average age of an EVE player is 25 or something so why do they act like teenagers.




I'm on EVE and sometimes I feel like I'm on 4chan or Twitter.


Why, is there an age limit to be a twit?

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Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#155 - 2012-08-07 06:48:28 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Why, is there an age limit to be a twit?


Hells no! ^^

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#156 - 2012-08-07 07:46:25 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Andrardd Andrard wrote:
I read somewhere the average age of an EVE player is 25 or something so why do they act like teenagers.




I'm on EVE and sometimes I feel like I'm on 4chan or Twitter.

Why, is there an age limit to be a twit?

Is it because there are 4chan links in local ...

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Syphon Lodian
Fabled Enterprises
#157 - 2012-08-07 08:27:33 UTC
It doesn't really bother me that some people act like pirates or scum, it tends to add atmosphere to the game.

"Steal/Destroy all your stuff" etc, isn't that big of a deal, because it's just a game.




I draw the line, however, at the mocking of people "in real life" when it's not appropriate. The Goons making fun of RL deaths (BoB e.g.) or their leader harassing and encouraging others into making someone commit suicide. This is just bullshit, and anyone that does it needs to find a new hobby.
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#158 - 2012-08-07 08:36:43 UTC
Syphon Lodian wrote:
I draw the line, however, at the mocking of people "in real life" when it's not appropriate. The Goons making fun of RL deaths (BoB e.g.) or their leader harassing and encouraging others into making someone commit suicide. This is just bullshit, and anyone that does it needs to find a new hobby.


Nothing to add to that... sad how a (arguable) superior stance in a game can bring out the worst in human beeings.

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#159 - 2012-08-07 09:00:09 UTC
Andrardd Andrard wrote:
Been playing for a year, about to unsub due to constant hostility and negativity at each turn.

So EVE, why so hostile and angry?

Because you cause face-aggro....I hate you.

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Frying Doom
#160 - 2012-08-07 11:05:30 UTC
Andrardd Andrard wrote:
Been playing for a year, about to unsub due to constant hostility and negativity at each turn.

So EVE, why so hostile and angry?

That is why you join a good corp or worse comes to worse, have enough alts that you are your own corp, then join a good allianceLol

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!