Science & Industry

Depending on where you are, Black Frog might be of use to you, to jump stuff back to Empire.

It's a trap!

Don't build T1 in null, just JF everything to highsec and then use a freighter or a Red Frog contract to get it to Jita. Compress low ends, refine high ends.

This is an example of how mineral volumes are broken in this game. It never makes sense to produce in null, because every product is smaller than the components used to produce it. Your best bet is to keep mining high ends and selling them. If you want to do production, do it near jita like everyone else then ship the finished goods where you want them.

One thing you might look at is producing items with a high percentage of high-ends in their construction (do both by volume and by value).

OP and his unsuspecting crew are going to get demolished .... demolished like justin bieber would be in prison.

What you'll want to do it mine the high-end ores which reprocess into morphite, megacyte, zydrine, nocxium, isogen. The low-end stuff generally won't be worth exporting. The concept of mining for personal production is romantically appealing, but also incredibly inefficient. You're here to make isk, not ships. To maximize your isk making ability you're going to mine things that are of the highest value, no matter what they are.

The amount of low-end ore that you pull up will be insignificant compared to the high-ends. To create a single dread would require ~100mil trit, which is averaging 6.5mil trit per belt (for first 3 belts), requiring cycling 15 belts. Sure you could go mine in the normal ore belts, but if you wanted to mine veldspar you might as well have stuck to empire. You could attempt compression into 425mm railgun Is for export, but you'd end up with a shortfall of pyerite.

Isotope prices are about to plummet, as are low-end mineral prices. Jump freightering will be probably cost only about 60% of what it does now. You should be using your rorqual booster to compress the ore, export it to a station with 0% refine tax (NEVER use the 75% refinery POS module for ore, ever). Once you refine your ore at the station, export it to empire with the JF. Priority obviously to the high-ends, filling space with low-ends only as filler. It will not be worth your while to be exporting JFs full of raw tritanium though.

Luckily for you, tritanium is one of the minerals that is in highest demand in nullsec, since so little of it can be mined. People won't want your pyerite though (since anyone manufacturing in nullsec will end up with excesses of it due to compression imbalances in the 425s).

Here's yesterday's ore mining rates:

Per Hour
Arkonor 53,212,128
Bistot 39,432,101
Crokite 33,473,100
Dark Ochre 27,361,313
Gneiss 16,953,920
Hedbergite 34,716,470
Hemorphite 34,405,046
Jaspet 34,294,637
Kernite 33,353,108
Mercoxit 62,058,223
Omber 19,105,755
Plagioclase 40,009,368
Pyroxeres 36,923,039
Scordite 41,547,847
Spodumain 16,435,726
Veldspar 40,238,329

You won't be mining ONLY highends. You'll be cycling belts and whatnot. But you should prioritize the highends, they refine into smaller easier to export clumps of minerals. There's hardly enough trit in these belts to be worth mentioning, maybe a handful of mining cycles.

And let's not forget about the imminent collapse of low-end prices and the isotope market. Veld won't be worth nearly as much for long

If logistics is a issue, stick with mining ABC ore. The compression ratio of ore vs minerals refined is 400:1 on average. Compared to 3:1 to 11:1 for High sec ores. Thus you can mine 400 loads of ABC ore and get 1 load of high end minerals to transport if you refine it locally.

Here is a chart I made that shows the ore batch m3 to mineral batch m3 ratios. Some of the values for the ratios are rounded down to make it easier to read and compare.

Veldspar 33.3m3 = Minerals 10m3 = C/R 3.3:1
Scordite 49.95m3 = Minerals 12.49m3 = C/R 4:1
Pyroxeres 99.9m3 = Minerals 10.34m3 = C/R 9.6:1
Plagioclase 116.55m3 = Minerals 10.24m3 = C/R 11:1
Omber 300m3 = Minerals 7.37m3 = C/R 41:1
Kernite 480m3 = Minerals 15.45m3 = C/R 31:1
Jaspet 1000m3 = Minerals 14.81m3 = C/R 67:1
Hemorphite 1500m3 = Minerals 16.34m3 = C/R 92:1
Hedbergite 1500m3 = Minerals 13.84m3 = C/R 108:1
Gneiss 2000m3 = Minerals 8.56m3 = C/R 233:1
Dark Ochre 3200m3 = Minerals 10m3 = C/R 320:1
Crokite 4000m3 = Minerals 13.25m3 = C/R 302:1
Spodumain 4000m3 = Minerals 35.59m3 = C/R 112:1
Bistot 3200m3 = Minerals 6.81m3 = C/R 470:1
Arkanor 3200m3 = Minerals 7.99m3 = C/R 400:1

As you can see if you mine Bistot, even though it isn't the best m3/hour. You may end up making you the most in the long run because you can transport more minerals per m3 mined. This may total more isk per refined load in the end. Seeing as logistics (transporting and getting your minerals to market) seem to be your choke point. Your m3 a hour should be less of a concern.

For example lets say a Orca holds 150k m3 ore. If you only mine Arkanor, you can fit 10 refined Orca loads worth of minerals into a Blockade Runner that has 4000m3 cargo. Which is a fully fitted with inertial stabilizers. You can still increase the cargo to around 10k but you sacrifice the Blockade Runners effectiveness. You will already have 400m isk worth of minerals in the hold.

If you end up mining everything in site. I would just store all the minerals and hire a freighter service. You can perhaps send out a Blockcade Runner with the more valuable minerals to the market if you need some immediate isk.

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