Player Features and Ideas Discussion

you can combat afk cloaking, you do it by getting the **** on with whatever else you were doing.

they're afk, they're hardly going to hot drop you while you're ratting.

The problem is that you know the cloaker is there in the first place. Remove the cloaker from local and you can do whatever you like for as long as you like without any kind of fear of AFK cloakers...

You would have to be a bit scared about ACTIVE cloakers thought... but the AFK cloaking problem surely would go away.

Barbara Nichole, i see where you are coming from. But i did mention that if you are moving around while cloaked, you cannot be found. Duties such as legitimate recon, traversing wormholes etc wouldnt be affected. You would need to sit still for a certain amount of time (depending on ship size) and yes, most people say that if the person is actually AFK while cloaked, they post no threat. The victims do not know they're afk, and creating that false belief is what gets people killed when they presume that person is afk.

Long story short, if CCP are willing to punish botters because the player isnt at their computer, how is afk cloaking any different? Its a cheap and unfair tactic that has no immediate counter.

The idea of a sandbox reality should not elicit the acceptance of players going afk, preventing others to go about their business by someone who isnt even at their computer. Yes, the psychological warfare becomes apparent to those who cannot determine if the instigator is actually on their pc or not. Either way, the results of cause and affect, which is what depicts a sandbox theme, shouldnt include afk tactics. If that kind of play is accepted, then we need to have a counter. And of course, there can be ways around being discovered. The stealthy ship would simply need to keep active and change locations every 30 minutes or so...or even uncloak to attack which would be one objective of the pilot, forcing him to actually be at the computer.

A direct answer to your question is the simple fact that AFK tactics are well known to result in monetary loss to players, in some cases, at an alliance level. Every kind of tactic should have a counter, including afk cloaking. If you're worried that this would prevent the effectiveness of cloaking, i completely disagree. Infact, it would hardly make any difference to how cloaking works now...except sitting still for so long, allowing players to begin locating the offenders ship.

First of all, I answered your question in my previous post.

Secondly, you've answered your own question with your opinion. Bold and repeat wont make much difference. Ive made my points to the flaud reasoning behind ccp allowing AFK cloaking to continue, you've given me your opinion. Cheers.

Remove afk players from local list.
Afk players are prevented from running modules.

Your signature has brilliant ideas. The module timer for a cloak would also be a great option. And to be honest, it wouldnt be hard to change either.

You keep avoiding all the difficult questions and answers. We can all see that's always the way to win an argument. Especially when you don't have one.

Put speed mods on cheetah.
Move in one direction.
Prober scans down your cloaked ship and warps to you.
Finds nothing because by the time he's landed, you're 9-10km away from him in an unknown direction.

Why not just simply have the server disconnect players after 15mins like most games?

At least it would help with the lag in the game, and make it harder to bot.