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EVE BOX - Custom Keyboard and USB Controller

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Pandora Tau
Instant Stealth Killers
#41 - 2012-07-29 06:37:56 UTC
You know we were actually spit balling the idea of a flip-cap launch button for the Self-Destruct Ship command, but there isn't a command for that, and likely for the better because that'd be more of a novelty feature than anything.

Ok, so Cahvus is down for the Quitsies.

Also, I just landed a programmer for the board via local Hackerspace. Thank you again for a great referral to that, whoever you were, too lazy to scroll up and give proper props.

:)

Sid Hudgens
Doomheim
#42 - 2012-07-29 20:26:20 UTC
I freakin love the flip-cap button idea. It would be worth harassing the devs to adding a self-destruct hot-key to the client just for this. But I have a better idea:

Flip-cap button for UNDOCK!!

Because we all know that's the most dangerous thing you can do in EVE.

I will pay extra for this feature.

"....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced."

Jett0
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#43 - 2012-07-30 00:53:17 UTC
If you can finish this, I hope it gets as much attention as the Lego Rifter.

Occasionally plays sober

Pandora Tau
Instant Stealth Killers
#44 - 2012-07-30 04:04:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Pandora Tau
Haha, for the undock? Oh, man. You don't think that's a bit excessive, and more of a novelty than a necessity. The reason why I ask is because there's not really a lot of space to add that....

although, what I can do is make Undock button now, the STOP button, and then shift the stuff up top to make room for an undock lever. But honestly, do you really want to flip a hatch every time you undock? Well, more than likely it's going to remain unflipped/up, let's be honest. Are you really going to open it and then close it back up? This thing is supposed to make EVE easier, not make things harder.

I agree it'd look bad ass, and having something that I envision on your desk will be titastic, but I don't want to throw bells and whistles on this, just for the sake of bells and whistles, because a week later you'll be sick of flipping that damned cap and you'll wish you just had a simple button to hit.

Think on it.

Anyway, as far as lighting goes I was thinking of doing a pulse effect every time you either hit a High Slot, or everytime you Target something. I was thinking just an instant flash to max light, and then a slow gradient to off. Here, I made this .gif to demonstrate what I imagine for the light. It would not be this type of button, but I used this image to demonstrate it for you guys.

And instead of the button lighting, it could actually be backing of the keys themselves. 1 LED light can light up a whole row no problem. So, normally the keys would not be lit, but when activated/triggered the backing of the keys would light in the manner I described above, but it wouldn't be the keys lighting, it would be the backing. Check this image out to see what I mean.

Another idea. Push-to-Talk key? I see that a lot of people use TS or Vent, or w/e... and not a lot of people use the EVE audio. I don't understand why. I think it works beautifully. But anyway, I'm baffled that nobody requested a Talk key.

:)

Abel Merkabah
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#45 - 2012-07-30 05:48:20 UTC
God, if you can get Das Keyboard to handle the manufacturing, I'd buy a dozen...

Love the idea, look forward to playing on one someday.

James315 for CSM 8!

Samoth Egnoled
Caldari Provisions
#46 - 2012-07-30 06:07:02 UTC
MotherMoon wrote:
love it. but you know...

Zboard has this cool system where you can swap in and out other mo set ups. the mmo boards only cost 10$. Maybe you should take your idea t them? try to prove there is a market for it? They made one for city of heros and no one plays that,



I currently have a z board and would love to have an 'eve' insert for mine. would mean i dont need to then buy another usb hub to integrate your product :P
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#47 - 2012-07-30 06:41:45 UTC
Grandpa Bill wrote:
Assuming that you are in the US, Keep in mind that ventures in kick starter and indigogo are not tax free ventures unless you are with a non profit with 501c3 status.

As far as I know, you have to be a U.S. citizen and have a U.S. bank account to use Kickstarter.

Heck, crowdsourcing isn't even legal in some countries (example: Canada). The U.S. only passed trade laws making it possible last April I think.
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#48 - 2012-07-31 06:55:45 UTC  |  Edited by: MotherMoon
I'm actually surprised CCP hasn't put out an mmo keyboard after soo many years.

And we know the game allready has support for alienware keyboards in laptops to glow and pluse as you take damage. So adding some kind of shield armor hull lights in the top left would be awesome.

CCP really needs to look at this awesome keyboard and give the go-ahead for some kind of mass production. city of heros has one, and it has way less players than eve does. 240,000 less players.

Come on ccp, i want that side board so bad.

also

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I agree it'd look bad ass, and having something that I envision on your desk will be titastic, but I don't want to throw bells and whistles on this, just for the sake of bells and whistles, because a week later you'll be sick of flipping that damned cap and you'll wish you just had a simple button to hit.


No way I'd never get tired of it. In fact maybe the overheat buttons should be little knobs that turn to 11! :P

but I like your simple approach. by the way I feel like the placement of different button isn't quite right in your mock up. The full keyboard had better spacing , but the eve box works better for sure. What I'm thinking is you just need to move some of the buttons around. Plus make sure to only have the buttons needed. One idea is to include 4-8 buttons without preset functions.

Another suggestion, if you can't get those little overheat buttons to fit realistically *I've been doing mock ups as well and this keeps driving me nuts* Make a button you hold down that then overheats whatever module you click. So a overheat button that you hold down in combination with a button might save you a ton of space, be simpler to build.

Also I feel like the undock and stop buttons are oddly placed? And the undock button should be the shape it is in game. I could do some mock ups later if you like, i just feel it could still use a bit of polish before you start making it a reality. : )

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg

MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#49 - 2012-07-31 08:44:16 UTC
Mock up

instead of a button for everything on the neocom, 5 programmable buttons on the right side. A single overheat button *like shift* and switches for overheating the whole rack. See steel battalion.

Then use the rest of the space above to include important combat controls like drones, orbit, and so on. Focus the eve box into a small shape by focusing it on combat controls. Lock target, orbit, keep range, break lock, and so on. I'll leave the rest up to you, I could do a full mock up including better sizes and such but I just wanted to throw something together in case it was a direction you might want to go in.

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg

Sid Hudgens
Doomheim
#50 - 2012-08-01 17:07:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Sid Hudgens
Sorry I haven't gotten back to you in here. I have started a reply 3 times and keep getting interrupted and then thinking I actually had replied. Don't know why I felt the need to say all that... moving on...

I still really love the idea of a flip-cap button (or two!) I'm wondering if your software guy could just make the button somehow programmable. I'm thinking something like the "quick macro" functionality on the logitech keyboards that can be programmed without using the driver config tools.

From you descriptions thus far this thing will just be sending the usual hot-key keyboard press combinations so having a couple of programmable buttons on there could be real handy. For instance the "push-to-talk" button you were thinking of could be programmable so that you could set it to whatever hot key you are using for ventrillo or teamspeak as well as using it for eve voice if desired. And then you could let the user decide if the flip cap button would be cool for something they do frequently like undock or infrequently like self-destruct.

Flip-cap button for self destruct may be a good idea either way ... that's not something you want to press on accident. (Or have your cat step on while you are afk.) Big smile

"....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced."

Cahvus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#51 - 2012-08-02 05:08:18 UTC
Flip caps!!!!


Just a nice bump. I really want to be a part of this project so if theres anything you care to delegate to me Pandora, please don't hesitate to eve mail me!
Renturu
In Glorium et Decorum
#52 - 2012-08-02 05:53:18 UTC
I use SnatchPro and it works well. Can actually customize a particular set of controls set for whatever function you need.

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